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Shuffler algoritm

Please do away with shuffler algorithms; just randomize it. I feel I need to build a deck to suit the algorithms which I don't want to.' The algo is completely obvious and often ridiculous. I think it would be great for MTG to just randomize it, because the shuffler seems to work best with copy paste unoriginal decks. So fix it. Now. Random is cheaper to for you guys. Fire some people, whatever.

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  • Scourge of God#71082 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    How I wish wizards listens to their players but nahhh I think they are just laughing at us...

    If only this is like MTGO in which you can just reimburse your collections but then nahhh

    Game is absolute rigged, matchmaking sucks, BORING game play, not great end of season rewards, Economy sucks... what more can you ask for? oh, let me add their Support team also doesn't even know what they are talking about when you ask which is why I just stop contacting them...

  • Uttertravisty#99743 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Wow, big yet again the Arena "shuffler" managed to deal me back-to-back games of 12+ lands in my 20 land deck, thanks WOTC! Really enjoy the hundreds of dollars I've invested into this game leading to SUCH a positive experiences as I watch my opponent draw threat after threat, removal spell after removal spell. REMOVE THE SHUFFLER ALGORITHM FROM THE GAME, IT IS BEYOND UNACCEPTABLE THAT IT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THIS LONG WITHOUT YOU EVEN ACKNOWLEDGING IT.

  • Bensgabriel#71414 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Hello,
    Just a general message about my displeasure with the MTG Arena product. I love playing the game but it can be hard to enjoy sometimes due to a few issues I have. I face the same decks over and over and lose to them everytime. I try to play fun and different decks but I just always get matched up against the best decks in standard and historic. I also feel like I get put up against decks that perfectly counter my decks alot...or a deck that gets their ideal combo on curve. I don't know how you can fix this but there needs to be some sort of system that rewards creativity and not just playing the decks that are top 5 in tournaments. I really want to keep enjoying MTG Arena. I know there is not much that can be done but I just want to make my feelings known. Thank you for taking the time to read this.
    -Ben

  • Dreblazer#00724 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Black magic going on with the software? Maybe its time for some anti-cheat software to watch game developers. #hello #oops! #thinking

  • odinsmite#75868 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I agree with everyone saying they want their money back. This is like playing a rigged Vegas game.

    How is that no matter how many people are playing the game, or how strong your deck is, or how great your skill level, I bet your winning percentage is 30% or less. This defies the laws of probability.

    You would never see this level of manna swamping or screwing in an actual board game. The only logical explanation is that this is programmed in.

    As I mentioned in a prior post you never see these problems when they broadcast a live tournament.

    This game is like a ponzi scheme, the only way it can survive is to keep tricking new people to join and
    dump money into it, before they realize how broken it is and then they leave or they love the game so much and hope for the best and stay.

    We all know the best way to breakup a ponzi scheme is by class action lawsuit, but I hope they fix the problem before it gets to that level.

  • Razorwolf#07167 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I am so furious all day I have witness the ability to pull zero mana..... out of a 24 mana 21 card deck none. It isn't once its constant. I should fully be reimbursed for my purchase of gems because this is absolutely insanity!!

  • Endrogado#07257 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Your game is working really really bad, is like was an arrangement on me for not letting me get the cards that will be useful. Really poor system, why i am match after match getting all BAD CARDS. ONE AFTER ANOTHER! Its pure ********. GET MY MONEY AND MY TIME BACK ! Or I will make a demand for not being transparent with your GAME!

  • IronwoodOwl#39864 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Despite having one quarter of deck in blue land, I am only dealt black lands and draw only black lands. STOP THE BIASED GAMEPLAY. MAKE A FAIR GAME FOR EVERYONE. DESTROY THE UNFAIR ALGORITHMS THAT RUIN THE GAME.

  • IronwoodOwl#39864 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Corrupt SHUFFLE SYSTEM does not allow FAIR play. Constantly dealt biased cards and completely BIASED system that delivers NO LAND or ALL LAND. 50% of deck could be land and you will still start with one, maybe two if you're lucky on draw. FIRE the CORRUPT employees and make a FAIR system to play.

  • Dameon Geppetto#78715 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    My daily ticket filed to let you know that we are all still MAD AS **** that you have not fixed the broken shuffler and rigged matchmaking system that is manipulating wins and losses.

    #boycottHasbro

  • Dameon Geppetto#78715 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    27 lands in a mono red deck, 6 draws without getting a land. #boycottHasbro

    The manipulation is out of control.

    EDIT: So I met the equal with the same deck not long after, 6 draws all land - both equal in assuring I lose that match (probably not related at all to the fact that I had been on a win streak both times /s).

    WotC is an organized crime syndicate.

    What is going on is criminal, it is time to get a class action suit filed against WotC.

  • MysticSquid#48745 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Your ads say " real strategy " but that's false representation. With the way your algorithms are the game is rigged with an exploitable bug you guys obviously do know about. Why don't you guys actually live upto truth in advertisement and make the shuffler random .

  • SmEiF#86788 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    the game is trash. after playing a month i now actually hate this game. the shuffler has literally ran me away from playing. ill not spend another dime and will switch to mtgo if wizards cant fix a obvious problem everyone is complaining about it. maybe do something with all the money you greedy trash charge for cardboard squares. its a shame. i loved this game. now i hate it. also ban scute swarm its causing the servers to lag and be trash for everyone and people are complaining about it as much as the shuffler issues. what kind of untrained monkeys do you have working as programmers. seriously. hire me ill fix it since you cant seem to bother fixing a broken shuffler thats been broken since day one from the sounds of the hundreds of thousands of complaints on here and other places. its a **** shame you all refuse to fixx it or even address the issue at all or even admit there is one. just stick heads up ***** and ignore. this company has went to ****

  • sobrio35#03464 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    One of my friends has a land-destruction deck. We've noticed I get land flooded every single time he starts destroying land. Every time, without fail.
    Obviously something your black-box algos are causing. I understand if you're not able to figure it out, but there's a solution:
    PROVIDE A RANDOM FORMAT. Just ONE format with no algorithms, please.
    Lots of people would choose to play it. It would be successful, and it would imitate the actual MTG card game rather than bumper bowling.

  • MysticSquid#48745 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    If you guys have done such extensive testing of your shuffler why does it seem like it dictates pretty much who is going to win before the game starts. Some games you get your " god draw " hand and others you get complete garage. The other issue is 3 games in a row I had land runs of 13, 16, 17. Honestly what are the odds of that happening in a 61 card deck with only 24 lands. Keep the draw 3 hands and pick the best but you guys have to get rid of the algorithm that modifies what gets drawn. You guys are losing the older crowd on arena, the guys that made you what you are today. I myself have supported this game since beta and have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years but I can not support arena the way it is at this point. I maintained my support through the loss of banding, mana burn, the sets where the best you could come up with was making versions of older cards, and all the **** through the years, but the way arena is right now I just can not support it. For the love of the game please fix it.

  • JohnHu83#46842 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    In the real world, land draw will not happens as frequent as every turns for 3 times or more. Or less than 2 to 3 turns, not drawing a land. Don't have to fix a game for player to loss a game in this way. Fix the bug

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