Algorithm Improvement
I'm sure you're getting a lot of complaints about how one-sided your algorithm is not being impartial and often times screwing over players with land draws that should not be happening in a purely random sample - so my complaint can be added to that pile.
But, an idea for changing the algorithm to improve randomization would be having the program assign a number to each card remaining in a deck and pile shuffling the cards into X amount of piles (let's say 6). It can repeat this process Y amount of times then take the middle of the pile and put those cards on top. A better template would be from the card shuffler for poker sets from stores.
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kazu masu#85226 commented
まぁ、
確率の計算はできていないという問題があるね。上位は、
ある程度予測できるだろうし、
わかっていて
遅くしているんだろう。 -
NailLee#05254 commented
I am Bronze. Tier 2. I am continually matches against Gold, Platinum & Mythic Players and am routinely pubstomped. I want to know why your match maker is so Broken it won't even match me against people of a similar rank in the past couple of months. This hardly feels fair.
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CounterSpellRageQuit#20736 commented
119 Card deck... Yet ALL 4 of the same card in the first 4 draws. You make me sick. The odds are less than .004% and yet this happens almost every day. I find myself uninstalling often and taking longer breaks from this ******** because of your incompetence with this trash algo.
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kazu masu#85226 commented
やはり、高い確率で操作し、
マッチを楽しめましたか
と、意図的に操作しているようす。 -
kazu masu#85226 commented
この直近、対戦相手を一回おいて、(2回のBO3マッチにつき一回)
マッチを楽しめましたか
と、きいてくるので、
さらに操作が強くなった
と思われる。確率的な違和感は、変わらないが。
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kazu masu#85226 commented
また同じような操作で
マッチをたのしめましたか
と聞いてくるが、かなりデッキ上部を(シャッフルできるカードを入れてもプレイでの傾向は変わらないので)意図的に操作しているようす。
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kazu masu#85226 commented
20/60
が土地のデッキで
5割以上、
6/10が土地のドローで
いつも通り確率が操作されていることはわかるがそれでマッチをたのしめましたか
ときかれても、
明らかに操作しているというのにきかないわけで別デッキでプレイしているレベルに操作が激しい。
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kazu masu#85226 commented
とても偏ったままだよ。
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Foundermeo#23944 commented
So I've been trying to see how matchmaking is weighted by specifically playing alchamy with a deck with absolutly no rares, for the first 4 matches I came up against majority rare decks, from then on I'd come up against decks where the first or second card they would play is rare. I'm about 15 losses in and I've yet to encounter a deck that is weighted to my deck. I think their matchmaking is straight up busted, and I think think its straight up lying when its said its weighted to card rarity.
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MysticSquid#48745 commented
asking if I enjoyed the game is just harassment. When you get a program where I'm losing to my opponent more then your shuffler then feel free to ask, But since you changed your shuffler I have to mulligan way more then not and usually it's more then once. Either you guys are clueless or you are intentionally modifying win rates. Ether one just says you really should just shut down your game and give it an overhaul.
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Nelson Lobo torres#93198 commented
More and more AI interferes with the randomness of the game, statistically it is impossible to lose 30 games in a row...
and the next day with the same deck win 15 games except the sixth game if I play a white deck it matches me with white decks if I play with black decks it matches me with black decks, there is no such thing as chance, every day the intervention of the AI to modify the games according to the criteria of those who run the game, this is rubbish, I have read forums where the question is repeated, how can perfect decks come out that do not fail? There is no such thing as chance, there is always a "hand of God" that intervenes at the last moment -
Kochis1818#88443 commented
The matchmaking is a joke. But then again the company is a joke and refuses to acknowledge their paying customers concerns other than saying our game is working as designed. So what they are saying is that a player that have never made it out of diamond using a 10 rare deck is supposed to face Karn decks with 30+ mythic rare cards 80% of their games. This game is nothing more than gambling and has almost no parallels to playing an actual game of magic. The game decided before I even drew my cards that I was programmed to lose. If I have 12 cards in my deck that are creature cards and in three games in a row a mulligan three times to not get a single creature... That is some astronomically small odds to happen once a day or more, not to mention 3/4 of my opponents have the perfect hand to win by or before turn 4. The programmers of this "game' should be ashamed that they have only creative bankruptcy to only produce a FOMO slot machine and nothing more. This company is one of the cancers of the gaming industry and should be heavily moderated by the government because currently it's the same as going to a casino, even though it claims to be a skill based card game.
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MysticSquid#48745 commented
when are you going to fix your F****ing shuffler, I have lost almost 2 tiers worth of ranking because of it. I could understand if it was all mana flood or starving but when its one for a game or 2 then it's the other for a game or 2. That says the issue is on your end and not the deck. Its bad enough that you put a legal exploit for mono decks but then we have to put up with this S**T. You are quickly killing off your player base and putting the nail in MTG's coffin.
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Haystack#90070 commented
How many new players in the world do you think there is? Cuz let me tell you as someone who plays commander with many people every week, all your doing is driving people away from the game. So many people come to the bar with a pile of proxies, saying they'll never spend on Magic again and it's all because of arena. I haven't played a game in a month that's gone past turn 4. Either one player is mana screwed or one player hits flawless curve and the other doesn't stand a chance. Win or lose. It takes over a minute to join games. It never used to be like that. The sad sad sad sad PATHETIC thing, is so many players, myself included, would KEEP spending money if there was ANY sort of transparency. Instead your employees gaslight the community. It's ******* disgusting.
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Billie de Bully#27253 commented
Dear Wizards of the coast and your Disney overlords,
I want to thank you for giving me such a ****** draft experience yesterday that made me realize that spending more money and time in the Arena with your absolute horror of a shuffler is absolutely not worth it. Why would i want to invest time and money in something that only frustrates me. Short anwser, I wont. Longer answer, see below.
More for my own mental processing and the amusement of the people will briefly summarize what made me this frustrated with the game I have played and loved for nearly 30 years. Yes, the caves of Shandalar hold no secrets for me, neither has it ever given me as frustrating a game experience despite all the bugs it had and they were many, I assure you.
Let me summarize: I was doing a quickdraft Caves of Ixilan and had drafted a very nice RG dino deck and had the fortune to draft 3 on color bomb red rares. ! had a low curve, lots of 2 drops and since i hate being flooded played 16 lands. Awesome deck that should have given me at least 5 wins in the gold tier I am in. However, the shuffler decided differently and I went 0-3 and most importantly (or frustatingly): I HAVENT PLAYED A SINGLE SPELL IN THREE GAMES!!!!!!
After 3 games and 3 mulligans I had only seen hands with red spells and green many or vice versa. The only time I did have green spells and green lands in hand they were all 3 copies of my fight spell but no creatures to play them on. All 3 games I have tried to draw in a solution and if I had continued to tortures myself I might have landed one or two spells, but winning was out of the question of course, so those were three very quick scoops, 750 crystals less and such boatload of frustration that it makes me want to write it down a day later. Trust me, I have much more important things to do...
I find it hard to believe that this is the best can do with all of the options available today. Even Shandalar was better thas this 30 years ago, so how is is it possible that this is the sad state of affairs that not only myself but a lot of other players are frustrated by. It doesn't seem a like sound business strategy to frustrate your player base in this manner, but what do I know. Or is there a PTW opt option nobody has told me about?
I will continue to play paper magic since there I can do my own shuffling and will never statisticly be able to reconstuct what happened yesterday. So thank you Wizards and your inept shuffler, for making me rethink my lifes choices and you can stick your Arena where the sun dont shine!
Kind regards Johan AKA Billie de Bully
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tukiyo92#04706 commented
ある日アリーナをプレイして9回やって2回しか先手がとれませんでした。
翌日プレイして9回中2回した先手がとれませんでした。
そこから数日集計して91回やって先手が33回しかとれていません。
分布確率でいえば0.27%、91回やって先手が0~33回の確率をすべて合計しても0.57%です。もしこのあと91回やって先手を58回とっても、ヤベー確率のあとにヤベー確率を引いているだけなので「ウィザーズのランダマイザーヤベーな……」としかならないのでそういうのは望んでいないのですが。
クソしょうもない確率に敗北するのも、アホみたいな豪運で勝利するのも、やってることが5分10分かけてじゃんけんしているだけで面白くありません。
上手い下手ではなく有利マッチ不利マッチ、引きが良かった悪かったで9割が解決するクソゲーには疲れました。いくら課金すれば常識的な確率の偏りの範疇でゲームすることが出来るのか教えてください。
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Gallo#47486 commented
Sometimes and often after 2/3 victories, it’s like game want to penalize you, And mana balance it doesn’t work, it give you or too mana cards or 2 mana. I know it’s magic game but it’s not lucky or destiny it’s very mechanical on Arena. Fix it please.
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LevisBClevis#30778 commented
Your deck randomize isn’t very random. Multiple games I get 1land or 5 land hands. Other games I either stay at 3 mana or get mana flooded.
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thelastraisin#77104 commented
After over 10 years, and in light of how your company treats people who disagree with you (i.e. the discord, see my comment below), I uninstalled Arena. I highly encourage anyone who looks at this post to do the same. They won't change anything unless we all stop playing.
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Thosmain#32800 commented
Comme c'est bizarre... Je poste un avis... et hop, je gagne 5 parties d'affilée avec un shuffling normal et des adversaires à ma hauteur. Bizarre, non ?...