Product Suggestion Leave Historic Alone
With the new Alchemy format, can we please have it separated from Historic? You are going to be nerfing cards considering the standard environment, please leave them alone for Historic decks.

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AgainstTheClumps#62434 commented
Beware new people this game is rigged to the hilt.Mtgo is your best bet but it's expensive.Apparently with this free app they can get away with anything and play stupid.
Chris C o c k s (they keep editing his stupid name) is the guy who ripped off the Gygax family.I looked it up ,real shady **** screwing over the person made the flagship game they made bank on.
Hasbro is corrupt as **** and now WoTC is as well.
Maybe a little anarchy would be good. -
Devito90#16688 commented
Wizards of the Coast,with your digital division under Chris *****,you created a mobile app that has a shuffler for a card game that is not random by any legal gambling standard you catalyze trending franchises into marketing tactics to allure weak minded consumers and “dumbed’ down and changed game play to facilitate an environment for these people who never played this game so they don’t get bored and leave as the veteran players must suffer because you change the product they were expecting to get.
If you wish to silence your customers who are aware of this and all the things Hasbro and Wizards has done thus far that were dishonest and misleading than you will be dealt with again and every time you do.
This is not a G rated game nor do you have the premise to make this forum G rated.
You have over stepped your boundaries in so many areas concerning these people's right to express themselves especially when you are pushing a game you manipulated which in a literal term, is rigged.
That's perfectly fine as there is no law preventing you from pulling a Hook,Habit,Hobby scam that most mobile apps use, but if you persist with your censoring of individuals then you will be dealt harshly with as we know who all of you are and we will give your names out to the entire world community who play your games so they may seek justice how they wish since you hide behind your new overlord in a cloak of dishonesty.
We have the power to completely ruin your company in so many ways from the last hack we did to vandalizing you office and liberating your warehouses in Texas and Belgium as a counterbalance for the things Hasbro has done through the WoTC brands that so many grew up with (along with the people who you ripped off that actually made these games originally:Gygax etc.).
You deleted thousands so far because they were calling you out for your deceitful business practices of the BAIT an SWITCH as all here were expecting MTG and not a cheap app with a rigged shuffler (smoother) that’s coat tailing and integrating trending franchises that basically have nothing to do with your own (Godzilla,Harry Potter,Stranger Things etc.) and dampening the quality of said game play with senseless animations.
You were warned for the last year to change but you persist and now time for talk is over. -
MTGAISASCAM#47429 commented
Wizards of the Coast,with your digital division under Chris *****,you created a mobile app that has a shuffler for a card game that is not random by any legal gambling standard you catalyze trending franchises into marketing tactics to allure weak minded consumers and “dumbed’ down and changed game play to facilitate an environment for these people who never played this game so they don’t get bored and leave as the veteran players must suffer because you change the product they were expecting to get.
If you wish to silence your customers who are aware of this and all the things Hasbro and Wizards has done thus far that were dishonest and misleading than you will be dealt with again and every time you do.
This is not a G rated game nor do you have the premise to make this forum G rated.
You have over stepped your boundaries in so many areas concerning these people's right to express themselves especially when you are pushing a game you manipulated which in a literal term, is rigged.
That's perfectly fine as there is no law preventing you from pulling a Hook,Habit,Hobby scam that most mobile apps use, but if you persist with your censoring of individuals then you will be dealt harshly with as we know who all of you are and we will give your names out to the entire world community who play your games so they may seek justice how they wish since you hide behind your new overlord in a cloak of dishonesty.
We have the power to completely ruin your company in so many ways from the last hack we did to vandalizing you office and liberating your warehouses in Texas and Belgium as a counterbalance for the things Hasbro has done through the WoTC brands that so many grew up with (along with the people who you ripped off that actually made these games originally:Gygax etc.).
You deleted thousands so far because they were calling you out for your deceitful business practices of the BAIT an SWITCH as all here were expecting MTG and not a cheap app with a rigged shuffler (smoother) that’s coat tailing and integrating trending franchises that basically have nothing to do with your own (Godzilla,Harry Potter,Stranger Things etc.) and dampening the quality of said game play with senseless animations.
You were warned for the last year to change but you persist and now time for talk is over. -
somsoc#29315 commented
Explorer is no replacement though because of all the interesting JumpStart and old cards that aren't in Pioneer and never will be.
Pioneer-lite unfortunately just doesn't do it and probably won't even when it reaches parity with MTGO Pioneer, owing to the fact that with Alchemy the onus to make properly balanced standard cards is next to zero. Pioneer had a very short window where it was hype and unsolved, now it's just outdone by Historic. So far every game I've played in that queue has been against the type of players I left MTGO to avoid playing against!
I really don't get it. It took a while for people to come around on Historic, but you got it to the point where it was a sweet unique format. You even introduced 1v1 Commander via Historic Brawl, and it was all set up for these recent sets and all the new gold commanders...then you absolutely tanked it with horrendous rebalanced standard cards. The whole point of this format is that it represents cards as they were released - actual history, not revisionism. People like the former and nobody likes the latter.
edit: also it's not that Alchemy as a stand alone entity is a problem it's mixing the cards with Historic that is just terrible and depressing. You really should have kept Alchemy distinct and let it stand on its own, or even made it a separate product where you could really go all-in on the remixing aspect (for example: what about players who can upgrade or remix cards they own? Can't see that happening on arena but that's the sort of thing that might be sweet in a separate game).
I edited this post to be less harsh but really this decision is so aggravating and hard to understand.
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OneOfThePetes#57928 commented
6 Months it took you to launch explorer.
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Krachengeholz#67635 commented
Since Alchemy, every time I challenge a friend with my historic deck It always shows illegal and when I want to edit it , it is set to Alchemy format not historic.. and I cannot change it , why ???? Since Alchemy there are only issues with deck selections in historic
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OneOfThePetes#57928 commented
5 Months, still not got magic installed.
5 Months, Wizards!
Give us back Historic, and stop messing about.
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TANSTAAFL#09512 commented
Were any of the rebalanced cards too strong for Historic? I find it hard to believe. Then why would you use the nerfed version of a card in Historic when the original was just fine in the format ? It makes no ******* sense. You're ruining Historic.
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cdove#97974 commented
Just stop making arena period. Stop making cards for this format. Your ruining all magic for this cash grab
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Crypto#02787 commented
I have not played a game on mtga since alchemy and I dont intend to before we get a non rotating true to paoer format, preferably modern. You ruined historic.
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Golem Geek#30562 commented
Nerfing cards has two problems
1. It's confusing to have two different cards with the same name.
2. The card I spent a wildcard on has just been taken away and I've been given an unplayable card. With no compensation. Give me my fricken wildcards back for nerfed cards. -
OneOfThePetes#57928 commented
4 Months, and I still haven't logged back in.
How many others have done the same?
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dRroOg18#56778 commented
from what i can tell you guys said something about how you would not simply bring back a non-alchemy historic alongside alchemy historic because it would just be 2 formats that are slight tweaks of each other and instead are opting to try something else. As far as i'm concerned, introducing alchemy to historic to begin with is the slight tweak that never should have occurred and you should try something else with alchemy and just return historic to its former glory. thats what everyone who stopped playing because of alchemy in historic wants wants, not for it to remain the pollutant and for us to have to migrate to some other new ruleset that from what you are saying isn't going to be the same, thats dumb, just give me back the true to tabletop historic i started playing and spent money for and i'll start playing and spending money again. why is that not the easy solution to everything
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Haquinus#99780 commented
Same is true for standard! Why Säckingen the format with some "Addition Cards" which destroy the Standard feeling!
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xDazed#85828 commented
Either keep alchemy changes separate from Historic Brawl or give us wildcards for these cards, since some of us crafted them for Historic Brawl decks. This type of decision making is driving more casual players away from the game since they would rather go play commander then deal with this confusing and poorly implemented change.
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SibaSt#36896 commented
I like Alchemy a lot.
But Historic should not have nerfed card. For two reasons:- eternal format are supposed to be, well... eternal! The whole point is that people can spent money/wildcard building strong decks, that will be viable for eternity. If cards keep being nerfed, it breaks this pattern. (I know bans already break this pattern, but that's why WotC was careful with bans in eternal format; usually just banning new cards that broke the format, rather than old stapples)
- more importantly: historic power level is WAY above standard/alchemy. It makes ZERO sense that a card nerfed in Alchemy would be even remotely playable in Historic!
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sokar#77140 commented
In the new state of the game you have announced that you intend to add a true non rotating format to Arena. I am happy to hear this as I have stopped playing (and paying) until there is one. Please keep the community updated on this as I know may people feel the same way I do.
Thank you
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OneOfThePetes#57928 commented
I haven't played Magic since last year, and it's WotC's stupid fault.
They've made it not worth playing.
ESPECIALLY since they've decided to unban Teferi, Time Raveler.
WotC has literally ZERO clue how shit they have made things.
I literally do not care anymore.
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Skwirl#12034 commented
I think Alchemy is fine. It's a good way to leverage digital technique and add more to the game and give Arena its own corner.
But I do agree it should be in its own world and not interfere with any other format before or after it. If it's designed to update and modify rather than ban, there probably would be no need to make any other format on its own line anyway.
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Sedsage#00845 commented
Arena needs a non-rotating non-digital format, split historic into regular/alchemy or just remove alchemy and digital-only cards from historic.