Grond, The Gatebreaker Bug
Hello, I'm not really sure where to report it it might be the wrong place.
I just lost a game due to a bug.
Double checked the effect with a local Judge, but presumably it will be visible in the log.
The enemy Controls an Orc Army & Grond.
I cast Fog on the Barrow-downs targeting the Army.
The orc army loses the type "Army" yet Grond still keeps transforming into a creature.
Checking with the rules and both of the abilities check types:
613.8. Within a layer or sublayer, determining which order effects are applied in is sometimes done using a dependency system. If a dependency exists, it will override the timestamp system.
613.8a An effect is said to “depend on” another if (a) it’s applied in the same layer (and, if applicable, sublayer) as the other effect; (b) applying the other would change the text or the existence of the first effect, what it applies to, or what it does to any of the things it applies to; and (c) neither effect is from a characteristic-defining ability or both effects are from characteristic-defining abilities. Otherwise, the effect is considered to be independent of the other effect.
It should not see the Orc Army as the type "army"
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Wildeman#49053 commented
I've experienced a few games now where the opponent has Grond, The Gatebreaker - crews it / attacks with it - when they do not have an army permanent.
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Mobo#38354 commented
Orc Army should lose creature type army due to the enchant creature.
Game was lost due to this. -
zartas#44734 commented
I had the same bug. Maybe the log is relevant
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swtlv#76385 commented
Lost due to this bug.
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GlavanicBlastYou#90430 commented
Same issue for me in my Traditional LotR draft (MTGArena on PC). Log attached.
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Vyolynce#14970 commented
Same issue. Luckily this was Bo3 and I won the next two games.
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Leaf#39757 commented
Lost my 3rd draft match off the 10 damage coming in from this over two turns. Feels bad.
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Wezol#53895 commented
I have the same issue.