Bug with the Shuffler
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I have troublems with the draws in every match, I draw only lands or none of the lands. I lost every games because of this.
Something is not working right. If I had to guess, it's that your game doesn't recognize enchantment creatures properly as "creatures." I just played a game with 21 lands. I drew one creature out of the first 30 cards and kept drawing land after land after land after land after land. I had 6 lands left in my hand by the time the game ended. I think you guys are outsmarting yourselves with this algorithm.
I've been running a G/B deck and experiencing the same sort of issues. I understand I won't get good draws/opening hands all the time (my deck is adaptive and built so I don't need 5/6 of my key cards in the opening hand), but it is beyond suspicous into the realms of bad programmers, bad hardware, and outright suspicious programming designed to push 'pay to play' and the distorted meta that is seen in wizards competitive events. (That is the competitive tourny meta often doesn't reflect the real ability of a given homebrew deck to get a high win ratio against a randomized assortment of online or in-person players, even if the prior was fixing matches based on tier/win rate/deck colors|size. ).
Either way I do notice that a deck I run 23 lands (because I got druids and gooses and Season of Growths), I'll get 6-10 straight lands (or if the opposite would kill my game win, then 6+ no lands). The mechanic even manages to do this at times even with a 2-3x Seasons of Growth when its code really is being flagged to ensure I don't win, it is obv because If I'm mana flooded I'll bottom-deck all mana dorks and lands, but then on a draw still get a land (even if I already have 6-10 out). Statistically very improbable, but to happen often, impossible in a near-true random shuffler. Even in RL in a EDH match, the chance of hitting 6 lands in a row is quite improbable.
I play decks with generally 22-24 lands. Six game on every eight i found twelve lands on the first twenty drawn cards or three lands in the same drawn, this in bo1 and in bo3.. that happening every day.. there is somthing wrong. Statistically impossible and frustrating.
Pedro Correia#99503 commented
Well done again...
During today went from tier 1 to tier 4 after the update!!!!!
Again with the issue of no mana, or mana flood!!
That is impossible to happen in the same deck!!!
Absurd and confirming again how bad and rigged the game is...
Keep going...Well done..
Is someone getting full same four cards in starting hands? This happened three times in same day for me. I was think this kind of scenario was impossible.
Yes. I'm having the same issue. In some hands, I had the all four cards type. The software is using a bad distribuition
We need to massive report this BUG, it really sucks and its a true problem to enjoy the game ...
HIRE NEW PROGRAMMERS! IT SHOULD NOT BE THIS HARD TO HAVE NEAR TRUE SHUFFLER RNG! STOP ALTERING MANA DRAW IN BO1 AND GIVE US RANDOM!
THIS PROGRAM IS USING SAME CRAP SHUFFLER FROM MTGO.
SO MANY HORRIBLE PROBLEMS WITH THIS GAME.
4 Fenlurkers and 0 Legitimacy
Back for more complaints... been playing an izzet pheonix deck. 95% of the time i get 3 drakes and 3 merchant in the top 10 cars of my deck and at least 3 pheonix are in the bottom 10... Like 5 BO3 in a row I had 3 pheonix in the bottom 3 of my deck..
Will a Dev ever at least comment on this garbage? Is there I way I can have my entire account refunded? It almost feels like the ranks are set for certain decks... And only the meta ones draw well... Ill rank up and get smashed hard 2 times by amazing perfect draws and rank down, then get the most stupid insanely good draw and smash the guy in the lower rank and go back up. This will go on forever until I change the deck im playing for the new rank... Anyway frustrating as ****.
Whenever I play against a large deck (100 cards to the maximum allowed) they magically always get a perfect hand and enough mana no matter how many types of color styles played yet my 60 card deck with more than enough mana draws all mana or no mana and they win because of horse **** bad scripting or whatever.
the funny things is i really loved magic but since i played arena i m starting to hate it because of this stupid draws . its funny all the time you start with 2 mana in hand the chances are extremly high you dont draw another mana in your next 3 turns or you start with 4 mana in hand and you draw yeahr as expected way to much mana .another thing is the starting hand changing system ,there are other ways to change your hand as the one magic is using wich is absolutly stupid .you change your hand and you pretty much lose the game .you could just do it like other card games and let players choose cards to shuffle them back and keep the one they like ,that would make the starting hand 1000 times better as it is now . thats also the reason people just play mono decks or agroo decks because thats the only decks you can really play because of this gamebreaking bug .please guys i really love magic and i thing its not hard to fix small stuff like that to make this game great again
Still consistently getting No land or all land... its never balanced. And the amount of times I get 4 of's is just stupid! When you mull to 5 to try to find land and you get 2 6 CMC cards and you scry em away only to draw your other 2... The shuffler is fucked!
Shuffler is garbage and rigged, why would you not have a random shuffler for a card game. Consistently get land screwed or flooded. Get play sets of cards in opening hand regularly. WOTC needs to switch to a random shuffler.
Random you say
Pedro Correia#99503 commented
2 lands in initial hand and after 7 draws no additional lands!!!!
This type of bug is reported for ages and you just do nothing!!!
Not even replying to the bug or provide a decent justification....
At this picture i had only 3 cards in my graveyard. Every other card can be saw in the Picture. I had only 4 mana left in the whole deck.. And this happens every time. Mana flooded...
Similar Shuffles happened in 30% of the games that i played today.
So the shuffler has always been a problem but lately... holy ****!! Its been bad but when I was playing the mythic rated white aggro deck, and got flooded like 6 games in a row when the deck only has 18 land I knew there was a problem.
Im gonna get all the naysayers stating oh its random deal with it, but its been weeks and weeks and even months dare I say where 95% of games I lose due to mana ***** of some sort. I don't care about winning, but when the only way I can win is when my opponent gets mana screwed worse and the stupid shuffler smooths my deck out before his its absolutely astoundingly frustrating.
It took the cake when I was playing the white deck with 18 land and in the top 13 cards I drew 7 land... according to hypergeometric calculators thats literally a 0.0007% chance of happening. **** shuffler is whack and I almost want a refund on all the **** money ive spent on this game.
I used cockatrice for years and years cause MTGO was just to expensive, but I got into Arena cause I love Magic. Well in Cockatrice (which is 100% random) I have never had such consistent and astronomically improbably odds to give me such bad draws!!
Anyway rant over, I watch a massive amount of youtube streamers as well and I never seen any of them deal with this jank! There is alot of other crazy stuff that happens with the shuffler but ill just leave it at that insane string of games with the white deck with 18 lands...