Bug with the Shuffler
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The same problem, I played 4 magicfest tournaments where I basically lost for draw 2 lands or 10 lands no spells. We cant play and demonstrate who is better because the algorithm is not realistic. You must to upgrade this now!
Dark Hazard#96299 commented
Completely agree. Will not be spending more money on this game until the randomizer is fixed. As it stands the game is trash because of the deck "shuffling" algorithm causing a ridiculous number of one card type or another to be clumped during game play as well as on the initial draw.
And again!!!!! In the same turn of the land battle!!! I get stucked in two land with the same mono black deck till the 5 turn!!!
This is not random. The game go wrong.
Now the oposite. I get stucked in two land for 5 turns with the same deck. This is my first game after I reported the loop of land…
This game is ********.
More shit with this algorithym. I get stucked on a loop of land. I ate 11 land and my opponent got all of its win conditions.
I win not spend a penny in this stupid game while this shit cotinues. This happen each two game that I play.
Look at this shit:
The shuffler is broken and needs to be fixed. Nothing about it is random. I have played in well over 100 sealed events and can confirm the shuffler pre determines who wins and sets the other player up for success. I have been on both sides of this so that is how I can ensure you it is foundationally flawed. Fix this garbage I am tired of giving you money for your trash.
Not necessarily intentional so much as bad luck. The odds of one particular 4-of not showing up in a single opening hand is about 3 in 5. The odds of it not showing up in a particular run of 20 hands is about 1 in 27000.
Given the number of people playing Arena, the number of different 4-ofs they're playing, and just how many games they're playing, the odds that someone, somewhere, missed a 4-of card for 20+ consecutive opening hands today are close to a near certainty.
Today you were that person. Guess it was your unlucky day.
Can I change my settings in draft to use a random shuffler? This is getting insane with whatever change has gone in the last week or two.
In 2/3 of my games now, I only get the two opening lands in my deck, and then no other lands for 8-10 cards. Consistently. The other 1/3 of my games I draw straight lands, back to 6-8 lands out of 10.
I've been building decks to be able to scry or choose the top cards to pick a land. Guess what - there are no lands in the top 10-15 cards in the deck, consistently. It's so bad now that I am writing down game after game just to verify. And I'm playing through game after game and discarding on turns 3-5 before my opponents mercifully kill me.
It's amazing how consistent it is - and yet 4 weeks ago or so in Arena, the shuffles were far more normal. Those actually felt like table magic games.
I want to stop seeing mostly overlapping draws in the drafts. It is crazy how often the same cards are in the opening hand when I only have 1 of them in the draft deck.
All I want is an option to use a random shuffler instead of the 'optimized' one. I don't care if that means I can have draws with 0-1 lands if the mulligan afterwards really shuffles the deck and randomizes it.
Ces - Metalworker#41849 commented
I have 4 copies of a card never shown in 20+ consecutive opening hands. Is this intentional?
Shuffler is once again lining cards up by name. This is the third time in a row my opening hand has had the same 7 cards.
Since the update early on 03/26/2020 the shuffler has once again begun stacking the same cards. I drew an Opt, played the Opt, Scryed an Opt to the bottom of the deck and drew another Opt. There are only 3 Opt in the deck. Next game play a Scry land put a 3/2 creature on the bottom on the deck and the next draw is the only other copy of the same 3/2 creature. I changed decks and find the same issues over and over. Oppenents play the same card three straight turns in a row, all drawn off the top of their library.
Please fix this issue yet again.
I just keep on seeing maths not line up. here's a run of 7 1 land hand's drawn in 8 total games (4 matches) with one Zero lander, in a 25 land deck.
there is no way the randomizer works consistantly... I run a MINIMUM of 24 lands per deck with a maximum size of 65 cards (usually 25-26 lands in a deck that size). I have run 13 games now and 11 of 13 drew 3 land out of a total 11 cards... THAT IS MASSIVELY ******. the other two games I pulled 7 and 8 lands out of 11. Also I managed EVERY game to pull a three set of a card (non-land) in the same opening 11 cards. CONSISTANTLY and it showed (based on play) my opponents managed the same 3 -4 pull every game. this has been a recurring theme with this game. I have played for well over a year now and I love the general play but HOLY **** your randomizer is AWFUL. I can say this for both randomly beneficial hands and bad ones, this is over the course of probably 500 games and not due to a lack of winning. I am simply bored of giving up games drawing mulligan after mulligan hand because I'm drawing a statistical anomaly after anomaly. PLEASE FIX YOUR game if you want a sustainable esport platform. I have played table top magic for over 20 years and i do NOT need to run the amount of land I do in this 'digital table top' that i do in real life... not even close.
I've been playing arena since there was dominaria .... in these years there has always been the same problem: every game I have to mulligan at least once. In addition, during the game I only draw lands or only cards that I cannot play due to the lack of lands. It 's as if arena does not mix the deck well .... you probably won't look at this message .... but I know I'm not the only one who has these problems .... therefore I invite you to take note of this problem. Thanks for your attention
Also the game's been out for over a year now and the shuffler is still a piece of garbage, Arena you seriously need to fix this ****! just unacceptable that you expect people to pay for your over priced **** when you don't even have a properly working shuffler... just load up a mono red deck and watch your shuffler deal you perfect hands ever ******* time, then load up any other deck and watch how you get 0 land draws.
Jumping into ranked games just to concede. There's no system to punish players for this, not even rank dropping, what's stopping players from jumping into ranked matches just to throw their games?
Once a player get's to platinum the decks that he's being placed against are all ******** decks, so there's no point in playing against those people. I know I've been doing this. In hopes that I can push the dumb decks up to the next league! I certain that other idiots(like myself) are doing this!
Also another problem is people just jumping into game and not playing... just going AFK, undoubtedly because they realize that this game is broken.
Pedro Correia#99503 commented
this is happening day after day
I change the decks and the same mess....
It ***** up. 8 of 10 matches with a 1/2 Land Start and no further land draw. Even after more than 10 draws. And my decks always have around 23 lands.
Anyone who's played the ranked play has to agree, I've played both against mono red and as mono red and the amount of times where the required lands just magically shows up at the top of the deck just when you need them is preposterous! Right now I'm surprised that there's even any other deck archetypes out there... mono red has everything anyone needs for up to 4 mana...
scorch spitters, fervent champions, steam-kins, boncrusher giant, chandra's spitfire, cavalalclade of calamity, then throw in Torbran... Seriously ... This isn't magic, it's play 3 lands and either win or be destroyed.
FIX YOUR BROKEN SHUFFLER.