geki#73568
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But its not on the permanent yet its still on the stack. Why make the rule if you kill whatever creature you try to mutate onto it becomes a creature, if you are not showing that the creature you are mutating isnt on the creature you are targeting until the spell resolves.
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Okay so why does controling the mutate spell take the permanent. They took it on the stack before the creature got mutated onto. If they were to change targets to another one of my creatures would they also get that creature. Why does gaining control of the spell work differently than if that person were to cast it themselves
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Okay then why when you take control of a storm spell you only get the original spell and not all of the storm triggers. It seems like there is a special mutate rule going on or a bug happened. It would also mean that if my opponent took control of a bestow spell then they would get whatever creature they put the bestow spell onto.
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Yeah but if they were to use heist they would still have a legal target. Why when they cast a spell that takes control of my spell the rules work differently than if they themselves were to cast the spell. Isnt taking control of a spell the same as if they were to cast the spell? That seems like such a different outcome, that there should be something in the rules that states that.
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Yeah and i put the mutate creature on the stack so shouldnt they have only been able to choose my creature, and they get to choose whats on top. Because that would mean if someone steals one of my cards (with heist or something) then mutate onto my creature they would gain control of my creature. But thats not what happens. Same with if they use mass manipulation to steal my creature I wouldnt get it back if i mutate onto it i just give them a bunch of triggers and chose whats on top.
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They took the entire stack of creatures and got the all the mutate triggers as well. I had a cavern whisperer and when they gained control of my snapdax I ended up losing cavern whisperer(was mutated onto the snapdax) and i had to discard a card. Also then, why when my opponent steals my card (with heist for example) and casts it they can only target a creature I control. And thats still a legal target, my own creature. If an opponent uses act of treason on my creature I can mutate onto the creature on their side. And if i steal a mutate card im only able to target my opponents creatures or cast it as a creature. And they also had a non human creature so why werent they able to target that creature. Them stealing the entire stack and triggers, from my knowledge of the rules, that isnt how mutate works. I play alot of mutate in arena and that interaction was completely different from how every other interaction with mutate has worked.
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Okay so why did i get two for oned with their control spell? And if they chose a different target with my mutate spell is that a quasi-gilded drake effect? Can they chose a different creature i control and take control of that? It seems really inconsistent to me. Why does taking control or the spell change how the spell works. I can mutate onto an opponents creature if i own it. so they should be able to do the same even if they gained control of it.
What i meant is its not tied to the permanent in question until it has actually mutated onto the creature. And there were legal targets, that interaction is such a blowout to someone playing mutate its not even funny.