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    King of Mulligans#50242 commented  · 

    Copying a comment made on another person who reported the same issue:

    I don't believe this is actually a bug. The issue here is that there's multiple effects going on at the same time. One (Toph's ability) is trying to change the type of other cards. One (Kenrith's Transformation) is trying to change the abilities of Toph.

    When there's multiple effects going on at the same time, deciding which takes precedence isn't just a matter of (whichever was added most recently). Instead, the rules use a system of layers, with effects in one layer happening before effects in the next.

    Type-changing effects (like Toph) are in Layer 4. Ability-removing effects are in Layer 6. Effectively this means Toph's ability isn't removed until it's already changed the types of the nontoken artifacts. So your artifacts should still be lands even with Kenrith's Transformation in play. For more on this particular interaction, do a search for Kenrith's Transformation and Ashaya, an older interaction which is similar in a lot of ways.

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    King of Mulligans#50242 commented  · 

    My understanding is that this what you described is only partially a bug.

    The issue here is that there's multiple effects going on at the same time. One (Toph's ability) is trying to change the type of other cards. One (Kenrith's Transformation) is trying to change the abilities of Toph.

    When there's multiple effects going on at the same time, deciding which takes precedence isn't just a matter of (whichever was added most recently). Instead, the rules use a system of layers, with effects in one layer happening before effects in the next.

    Type-changing effects (like Toph) are in Layer 4. Ability-removing effects are in Layer 6. Effectively this means Toph's ability isn't removed until it's already changed the types of the nontoken artifacts. So your artifacts should still be lands even with Kenrith's Transformation in play. For more on this particular interaction, do a search for Kenrith's Transformation and Ashaya, an older interaction which is similar in a lot of ways.

    That being said, her endstep ability should not be triggering here.

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