Product Suggestion Leave Historic Alone
With the new Alchemy format, can we please have it separated from Historic? You are going to be nerfing cards considering the standard environment, please leave them alone for Historic decks.

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K1ng_Sm1th#27067 commented
Seek. Perpetual. Draft from spellbook. Conjure. Double team. Boon. And whatever else.
It doesn't belong in magic. Not in the way you force onto players anyway.
At first you made us fight the good fight just to have a historic queue. I, like many others, remember how you made us PAY GOLD AND GEMS to play the historic queue. We had cards in our collection and couldn't play them. You charged us DOUBLE WILDCARDS TO CRAFT historic cards. We jumped through your hoops and SHOWED YOU THAT WE WANTED AN ETERNAL FORMAT where we could play our cards. cards we have often paid real money for.
And how do you repay us?
With a bunch of digital only cards which nobody asked for or wanted, which completely warp the historic format into something we hate. My question is why? We all keep telling you WE DON'T LIKE IT, and yet you keep catering to the minority of people who want to play alchemy.
Give them a separate queue and let them fight to keep show you how much they want to keep their precious alchemy cards. Heck, why not charge them to play alchemy like you charged us to play historic? That way you'll know they really want it! Alchemy is dead. The only reason why it still persists is because you seeded it into the historic format and it latches on like a leech. I don't understand why you made us fight tooth and nail for the ability to play our non-standard legal cards, but you're forcing something that we don't want down our throats. Please for the love of magic GIVE US OUR HISTORIC FORMAT BACK!!!
We don't want to play historic brawl WITH alchemy.
We don't want to have to put up with unrealistic games where opponents just get to manipulate decks to tutor cards with busted seek mechanics (cabaretti revels..)
We don't want to have to put up with losses to decks that essentially don't play by the rules of magic.It's infuriating when you lose to a deck which is practically 90% alchemy versus your real card deck, and the only reason you lose is because it feels like you and your opponent are playing two entirely different card games!! It's beyond a joke now, and the only reason many people still play is because we already invested so heavily into the format. What you're doing though, is taking advantage of us. I wonder how long before the camel's back breaks..
Yes, granted we have explorer... But why shouldn't we get to play with our historic anthology cards which we have paid for?
Please put the pride and ego aside and do something positive for the game starting with separating the alchemy and historic queue. Get back in touch with how the player base feels and put 'people' back into the decision making aspect of the game. I'm sure you'd be surprised by the results (or not, you probably already know nobody want's to play alchemy)
Whatever.
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2EzSwiftJustice2Ez#45114 commented
The creators don't care about the fanbase and it will never change
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Rev3rsi0n#58616 commented
Totally agree, alchemy is the worst possible format and almost every player aree with that.
No one want to play a format that cannot be played with real cards as well.TBH everyone should just stop playing it in order to force wizard to remove it, but some people are just abusing the format to easily grind BO1 in an unbalanced format.
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Kreft#19794 commented
Alchemy has ruined Arena. You'd make much more money giving players the option of avoiding alchemy.
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CheerUpEmoKids#30298 commented
Looks like WotC is no longer about the players...
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Necitachi#20215 commented
Remove alchemy cards and alchemy changed cards from historic. They make the game annoying and unfun because alchemy cards don't have any answers. You can't counter a draft or play an artifact that turns off seek abilities. These are awful mechanics that make the game only have combos and over powered.
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splinterfight#77206 commented
Please seperate alchemy from historic. Also allow the origional versions of cards to be player or ban them.
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OneOfThePetes#57928 commented
It has been a year now, and while I've been able to play explorer for 6 months, there is no explorer brawl. There is only historic brawl which is infected with alchemy ********.
I have not spent a single penny on any magic product for a year now.
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KingYoshi#73486 commented
Please allow Historic to remain a eternal format that is at parity with the Physical printed Cards.
It's not fun playing with a card that only exists online and cannot be played with in real life.
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Legeran#87020 commented
Please remove alchemy from historic, is a pain to play as a casual player (on arena), as I know what the printed card does but is a completely different card on arena. Please remove the fake cards from historic
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Black Moon#71769 commented
Alchemy is such a failure of trashy untested wannabe other game mechanics that do not belong in MTG at all. They do not work well with the existing cards and have completely ruined Historic. Here we are literally a year later and we have yet to see Wizards actually remove these piles of trash from Arena or at least from Historic despite every single historic player asking them to. Meanwhile the client and economy suffer.
Alchemy is just ruining the game and these sleeze bags at WOTC and Hasbro are so ******* greedy and dumb they refuse to admit a mistake and remove alchemy or at least release historic from its gross grip.
Whoever is designing the trash alchemy cards should have been fired long long ago but we continue to see the same garbage thrown at us with a price tag regardless.
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feltcat#66180 commented
I refuse to use Alchemy cards in Historic. Alchemy is cancerous cash grab, with stolen mechanics from Hearthstone, and is purely meant to attract Hearthstone's dying player base. The same abilities they are adding into Historic, is what killed Hearthstone. If you wanna swipe players from a dying game, sure, whatever, I guess I get that... but force them to circle jerk about this bad, unbalanced, cancerous, gameplay they for some reason enjoy, way, way away from me.
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MADDoc#51206 commented
The whole concept of Alchemy cards being allowed in other formats besides Alchemy makes other game play not enjoyable. If someone wants to use Alchemy cards then it should only be in the Alchemy format. The whole Alchemy concept is idiotic at best moronic at worst. Formats outside Alchemy should be kept pure to the printed cards.
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OneOfThePetes#57928 commented
So Explorer is the format when I can play eternal paper magic. Great!
I can't play the Historic Anthology cards that I want to in that format.
Spent loads on them.
THIS is why I haven't bought any more of your anthology card sets, and nor will I in the future.
Get this Alchemy **** OUT of here! Stop nerfing stuff.
You've pretty much made it so it is not worth paying for anything.
As soon as I come up against an Alchemy deck in Historic, I ALT F4.
I bet that's a pain for the other player, but quite frankly I don't care at all.WHEN WILL YOU LEARN?
WHEN WILL YOU LISTEN?I wish I could just take a big **** on your desk.
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dracowannabe#04201 commented
I cannot agree more. It stink having Alchemy in history. Playing explorer instead but well, dont have all the nice cards i could buy and play with.
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Edralos#37775 commented
I fully support the idea. Although i do not like the Alchemy set, there might be people enjoying it just fine. Maybe having Alchemy be a specialized version of Historic would be a solution. I'd like to use Historic Brawl as a playground to test out the deck I prepare IRL but let's say having all of the Alchemy mechanics IRL is not quite doable and facing people using them does not provide a realistic feedback for such practice.
please do consider the idea.
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Pentvidia#86120 commented
This suggestion has garnered almost 2k votes and surely between Important to Critical urgency since it was posted by the end of last year. A lot will agree that Alchemy was been one of the worst decisions WotC has made in recent times, if not the worst. And a part of me agrees as, arguably, this takes away from finally putting Pioneer into Arena and making Historic more intriguing with newer cards to make the metagame exciting. As much as I also agree that it has been a horrendous endeavor to try and actually force Alchemy down our throats, with a few consecutive Alchemy events and even its own Mastery Pass, I do (try to) understand the reasoning behind their choice. The few times I played Alchemy it was indeed fun and I enjoyed a bit. There is an audience out there for the format.
Historic in itself is not just a format but it has a meaning in its name. Players get to play with history and experience history in digital form, to feel what it's like using these cards that made history. But with Alchemy added to the mix, then it sets a precedent that ruins entirely the essence of the format. This has already happened with the "rebalancing" of Unholy Heat and Dragon's Rage Channeler. Both cards are now major players in the formats that already play them. But those very cards getting rebalanced feels...dirty. Wrong. Granted the rebalanced versions of those cards should have been what they are from the very beginning, especially Unholy Heat as red should NEVER have a card that easily and very efficiently takes out a large creature, for only 1 red mana. But, I digress.
I may just be spewing words onto a brick wall and beating a dead horse at the same time at this point. But as a fan who loves MTG very much, it hurts.
And if anything, if Alchemy is about rebalancing/changing cards, banning Grinning Ignus completely spits on this aspect. So...what's the point then.
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Cardplayer21#86863 commented
Please just keep alchemy cards out of historic all together. I want a legacy format without all these made up cards.
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werothegreat#11501 commented
I concur. Give us a historic format without alchemy cards. Better yet, implement commander fully.
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oakiim#26792 commented
I do like the idea of rebalancing cards for Alchemy, but it definitely should not affect historic. The power level and meta with its combos is completely different. Also the nerfs and buffs seem to be based on standard, and not actual alchemy meta, where 50% of people play the same broken alch-only rares.