Product Suggestion Leave Historic Alone
With the new Alchemy format, can we please have it separated from Historic? You are going to be nerfing cards considering the standard environment, please leave them alone for Historic decks.
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belltowersphinx#42192
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Alchemy is a fine format but please don't let the rebalanced cards into historic.
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Cosmic T Rex#89415
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Won't be buying gems in the store again, spent quite a bit already keeping up standard rare drafting to be able to craft historic decks.
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Prentiscool#40585
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I love the historic format, I only really play historic, and I enjoy playing an eternal format on MTGA. I've spent money on every single expansion, and I enjoy my time with the game.
This change makes me not want to spend any more money into the game, purely because the cards that I want to play with could be changed on a whim. It makes me not want to spend wild cards and not want to make new decks out of the fear that cards in it could just change at a whim. There is no sense of security with the cards that I play with.
There are a few ways this can easily be addressed without changing the overall plan that you have:
1. Give wild cards to people when a card is changed. (Buffed or nerfed, it does not matter.) This gives people that sense of security where they can spend their wild cards, and if something is changed, its less of a feels bad moment when a card gets nerfed or changed in an undesirable way.
2. Allow players to use either version of the card in their historic decks. (This is easily the best of both worlds here.) Let people play with the cards that they want in whatever version they want, and allow buffed versions of older cards to be playable if you wish. (This obviously does not apply to banned cards like Omnath, where only the changed version is allowed.)
Either of these changes would address the main concern that people have with this update, being that perfectly fine historic cards such as Luminarch Aspirant and Faceless Haven being impacted from standard power level concerns.
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Bearjew#90192
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This does seem like a very elegant way to see how much a company can **** of its player base to see how many stick around, bravo.
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LoneWolf#95921
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I play mostly historic, because it's the closest to modern I can play online, I'm not in an area where are that many paper players, so this was my way of enjoying magic, I was already upset with the digital only cards, now it's even worse, historic will no longer be an eternal format, affected by standard balancing (makes no sense), and you don't do that in paper.
want a balanced game? playtest better, there are insane interactions that are just broken, or simply ban/suspend cards. use the same tools as paper, and let the devs fix the **** bugs, make them happy, you will have a better game. -
FastRiffTheUnicorn#88156
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Please just give players who want nothing to do with digital only cards, buffs and nerfs their own queue.
By the way, the problems you try to adress is something you created yourself. Till you suspended lapse the format was balanced. The only thing it needs is old sets, thats where your energy should go not into something nobody even asked for. In case you forgot, the things most asked are.
-Pioneer masters
-4 player brawl
-removing countless bugs that mostly apply to specific PC configurations
-more pickable drafts
-lands as cosmetic instead of 500 different basics -
GoblinBalloonBrigade#69376
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Dear WotC,
I love MTG. I love Arena and the Historic format you have built there. I like Alchemy because I love innovation. But please leave Historic alone or at least create a Non Alchemic Historic next the Alchemized version. Please.
Thank you.
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alfalfa1#24826
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Having Historic not be affected by digital rebalances in a format which is completely unrelated to it should be the norm. Balancing digital only cards that are only legal in historic is one thing and is fine, but this means that the historic metagame is affected by decisions that have nothing to do with it.
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cbbij#53353
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Please leave historic alone. I like the jumpstart sets, and the picking and choosing of old cards to improve the format. But these alchemy cards and buffing/nerfing of old cards is going to ruin Historic. Historic has a great diverse meta, and is genuinely a fun format. But these changes will definitely drive me away from playing any form of virtual magic
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DoctorFireFarts#72027
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I kindly urge you to consider separating historic from Alchemy or even creating another separate format for Historic Alchemy if players are interested in that. Many of us play historic exclusively on Arena, myself included, and have dumped hundreds of dollars into this game to build a large collection and be able to play many archetypes in an eternal format.
Alchemy undoes years of work and hundreds if not thousands of dollars spent on your game. Changes left as is, I assure you there will be a mass exodus of historic players leaving the client entirely as it is no longer the game we like and will cost far too much to continue playing.
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FriedShrimp#55598
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Cancel Alchemy, fire the people who suggested and/or greenlit replacing historic with Alchemy only versions
Make a new client that supports commander
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DADDY_DOLLARS#35243
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please create a separate queue for alchemy
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Scarecrow#82003
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Changing text on existing cards is a bad idea, especially when we're using money to get cards. And when we don't get reimbursed for the changes to those cards we didn't ask for just adds to the disappointment.
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Crusty Magic#03080
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Luminarch Aspirant and the myriad of other cards you plan on rebalancing for Alchemy should stay in Alchemy. They are not contributing to balance issues in Historic.
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Ivanko#16122
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With the ongoing pandemic, it has been quite hard to interact with Magic in a satisfying way, with Historic on MTG:A being the only chance for plenty of people to experience an eternal magic format. While I don't oppose the idea of Alchemy as a self-contained format and understand where the idea is coming from, I would like to voice my concerns about introducing more digital-only cards to Historic and therefore furthering it even more from the paper Magic experience.
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AtomAnt#89165
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#leavehistoricalone
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corvuss#75697
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As a player its very disheartening to hear that the cards that we have worked for, payed for and grinded for are no longer going to be what they were when we got them. Thats like buying a Fridge then G.E coming in and replacing it with a mini Fridge because the other used to much power. We arnt getting a refund nor wildcards. Why is the person(s) responsible for this decision not listening to your customers? Us, the people who work to then spend on a game they enjoy only to have some out of touch big wig come back and say "you know what is good for our pockets? Nerfing the game our consumers love" Its all profit and no quality of life. Set this as a SEPERATE FORMAT. If that were the case then I think the reaction to Alchemy would be MUCH better. But what do I know, Im just a consumer.
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mjgoins#97949
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Changing the rules text of an existing card is stupid.
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norj#01490
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Historic just needs to be renamed to Historic Alchemy and work needs to begin on real paper eternal formats. I'm here to play paper magic on a digital platform first and foremost. Alchemy should stand alone or fail alone. Call the new format Pre-Pioneer and release a set a quarter. Problem solved.
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TheRoodInverse#85935
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I hate the digital only concept. Either keep it seperate or keep it out. I came to play magic, not this bs