Irenicus's Vile Duplication vs Patriar's Humiliation, What does "Perpetual" Mean?
In alchemy format:
1 have an opponent put a creature on the field with an ability, (example: Halana and Alena, Partners)
2 use patriar's humiliation on that creature, in principle eliminating its abilities
3 Have that opponent use Irenicus's Vile Duplication on that creature, creating a token of that creature that for some reason still has its abilities, despite the meaning and reading of 'perpetual'.
This is a rules check, but once a card has had its abilities removed 'perpetually' rather than via an enchantment aura such as Reprobation, a copy of it created as a token shouldn't possess any ability the original no longer has, right?
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[Deleted User] commented
Incorrect. Copies aquire the copiable values of the original, which perpetual effects do not change (unless its a perpetual copy effect, which currently doesn't exist, I think). Perpetual just means, that the continuous effect carries over any zone changes to the new object in that other zone. It doesn't change it which layers the effect is applied in.