Paradigm spells order incorrectly when improvisation capstone finds another paradigm spell
Paradigm is a very complicated mechanic under the hood so I'm not 100% sure how this should be working, but I'm pretty sure it's not working correctly. When I have a deck containing all the paradigm spells I am unable to determine the order they will cast an the start of my turn.
Steps to reproduce:
- cast echocasting symposium
- on the following turn cast improvisation capstone
- on the following turn the paradigm triggers should trigger in the order you cast them, resolving FILO so we get improvisation then echocasting
- on a following turn have the improvisation capstone find restoration seminar and cast that spell
- when the paradigm triggers next go on the stack they will not be in the anticipated order of resolving which would be restoration -> improvisation -> echocasting. In fact sometimes you will get echocasting -> restoration -> improvisation.
I do not fully understand what is happening but I'm confident I cannot reorder my triggers (even in full control) and I cannot anticipate what my next turn trigger order will be 100% of the time.
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Julien#10951
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kyo555#50153
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The problem is that either I'm missing an UI element or there is really no way to setup the order you want to cast the copies unless you dig deep in the settings.
This gets really annoying if Improvisation Capstone only triggers after Germination Practicum - making you miss out on the +2/+2 on any new creatures cast.
One fix could be to also move the spells to hand, similar to Flashback or spells actively cast from exile - so the casting of the copy ist still optional and it's easy to pick the order.
Or the auto-triggers should resolve in a predetermined order.
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Rezzahan#77802
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"- on the following turn the paradigm triggers should trigger in the order you cast them, resolving FILO so we get improvisation then echocasting "
No. Since the delayed triggers from your multiple paradigm spells all trigger at the same time, the order is determined by the player. You can order them however you like. Note, that the triggers are to create a copy and then cast the copy, you are not putting all the spell copies on the stack at the same time. There will only be one spell copy and the rest of the delayed triggers on the stack.
But, to do that, you have to disable the autoordering of triggers in the settings menu. Full control is for priority shennanigans, not trigger ordering or order or replacement effects, which is another item you can and should disable in the settings menu.