I'm sure you're getting a lot of complaints about how one-sided your algorithm is not being impartial and often times screwing over players with land draws that should not be happening in a purely random sample - so my complaint can be added to that pile.
But, an idea for changing the algorithm to improve randomization would be having the program assign a number to each card remaining in a deck and pile shuffling the cards into X amount of piles (let's say 6). It can repeat this process Y amount of times then take the middle of the pile and put those cards on top. A better template would be from the card shuffler for poker sets from stores.
Not almosth every game Andre#34832 it's all the games actually counting on your losses/wins... It's completly rigged! And the worst thing is that it's so obvious that the game will scratch that in your face like the game is saying "I won't let you win and you know it and there is nothing you can doo about it!"
And IsaPuppy#02661 i completly agree that " did you enjoy the game" bs is anoying af... 90% of the time that question only shows up when i loose so what is the purpose of that? And no i don't enjoy rigged games so even if i win all you get from me is a no like ever was and ever will be! Stop that stupid question because there is no use for it anyway...
I rank up to mythic every month since the last 7 months or so, even with the mosth hilarious decks that would never ever work in real life, like a 10 lands deck... yes i rank up to mythic with a 10 lands deck... Since the starting hand will mosth likely have 2 lands on it why not right? So i made a 10 lands white deck with 60 cards and only cards that cost 1 and 2 manas and then i just put +1+1 counters on them, i only have creatures, a few enchants and one or 2 artifact/enchant destroyers, nothing else. And already got me to mythic some times........ the fun fact is that i even draw lands when i need them and even multiple land draws in a row... rarely i loose from mana ***** but the matches i loose is due to the game giving me cards that i don't need at that right moment but it's a rare event... i remember winning like 10 games in a row or so without a single loss in between wich is hilarious because irl that would mosth likely not happen... and then i have a well structured nicol bolas themed deck that took me to mythic the other times. All my other 60/80 decks are also very well structured but can barrely win a game because the game insists in matching me agains't counter decks and always ***** up my draws or due to lack on mana color or due to mana ***** or simply by giving my empty handed oponents the right cards to ***** me up or just by only giving me useless stuff that i cannot use against that oponent like giving me mass creature destroyers when my opponent only play's enchants or others of the kind... with that nicol bolas deck i reached on tutor a 79% win rate in a streak of more than 20 or so matches, to the next day i loose an equal ammount of matches in a row without a single win in between... It's interesting that when you are about to rank up all of a sudden you downgrade to the beginning of that rank level... like the game want's you to spend more time with it and or maybe some money on it due to the frustration and leading you to think that what you really need is better cards cause your deck is still too weak? What about those 25/50 remaining golds needed to buy one more last booster of the day (if this is your case) and you can't because you keep loosing to stupid draws? I would spend hundreds of hours more playing this game if this wasn't rigged. But instead all i want is to finish my quests as fast as i can, buy my fckn stuff and leave!
Anyway on my cost you don't get rich for sure... i play since the start and never did and never will spend a penie on that fully scripted game ever.
I wonder how much more players could be playing this garbage if it was a legit random fair game like it is on paper...
Guys, playing this game is crazy. You can understand how the game works from the second turn. And guess what?! Guessing is hundred percent correct. Almost every game is bloody scripted, your implementation with the emoticon is useless without a comment session underneath. If you check your Log files you can understand how frustrating it is. Change your beta testers or be more clear about how your game is play-to-win
I hate playing against a different meta depending on my deck choice. Every time I adjust to what seems to be the meta, I'm fed a totally different set of opponents. I'd love to test my janky upsetter decks against the most common decks, but as soon as I do, those opponents are never seen again. I would prefer an FNM standard tournament experience, not some heavily manipulated fight rigging. Pit people against each other based on rank, sure, but not based on card choice. It's unfun. And quit asking if I enjoyed a game. It's not about one game it's about the total experience. I'm ready to quit.
Ever notice this cheap *** game changes who you play against based on your deck... I do... Cheap *** programming. Well to be fair pay to win guess tech companies will real it in come this next recession... better learn to grow and not code!
Stark fist of Revenge#76176 commented
Shuffler is not fine.It spits duplicates.An issue for the last 4 years.It's worse now and the fanboy noobies think it's normal even after WOTC explained that it's altered so vetted players don't win all the time and get bored and so noobs don't lose all the time and run off.As we all discussed in the last 4 yrs.,duplicates are the name of this RIGGED platform.Over 70% of the time you will get at least 1 pair and copies of cards in hand within 4 turns for certain as long as you have 3+ copies in deck.Complex original decks with an intricate diversity of cards that all are symbiotic to itself are screwed (esp. legendary) outside of the 3-4 card engines net decks have to win.Hence build a deck adapted to their malefaction greedy platform and expect and prepare for dubs and trips of a card within 3-4 turns.EG. player plays lightning bolt,most likely they have another copy or most certainly will get one soon if they have 4 copies drafted.Don't worry the Renton office will get punished and it will be hilarious and HISTORIC.
How is it conceivable that my opponent played three Wedding Announcements in a row from a deck with one hundred card?
He had three lands and an endless supply of increasingly powerful token creatures. One might think the shuffler is broken.
have draw random at all times . im getting so tired of this smoothing BS that cheats me out of games just so yall can make us 50% win rate . 9 out 10 games is the same BS opening hand 2 lands and 2 lands however many times i mull and then never anymore lands for next 6-8 turns and i litterly play a deck that is 80% 2-3 drop with so much draw and nothing . quite funny all though my pro magic time i held an 85% win rate in all types of play but on here nope and yall wonder why your losing money
W'olfa Nunh#03251 commented
The reason for quitting your game is because as a fairly new player i am pinned up against veteran players against my will and forced to eat a loss every time. It is NOT fun using a common /uncommon deck against people who are using 30+ rare cards in their decks.
It's unfair and the algorithm based on what i can see is absolute ****. Like i said, i've only been playing for a few months but during this time i can see a huge disparity between getting lands and not. Majority of times i get 1 land. Now you can say that i didn't set my deck up properly to where i would say that you are wrong because WotC set this deck up personally and i haven't fiddled with it at all. It's a starter deck they give you to get started. There may be a rare or something in the starter deck but still, it's mainly commons and uncommons.
At least when i play irl i know who im playing against and what decks they are using and i can shuffle my deck better than your ai, which btw should be impossible since all you have to do is set numbers.
Why can't everyone start off with at least 2 lands in their hand and random everything else. Going 20 cards deep into a deck and finding one land is stupid and tells me that your algorithm is fubar.
That's why im quitting and i don't recommend people play your game unless they got way to much money invested to quit.
Support non existent.
Mana non existent .
I win one game and the game after no mana at all for alll the three matches ,it’s seems to be by a choice to balance win and loss ..not real ability game ,just statistics game .
U win some
U must lose the same amount ,
U have the worst support ever ,u say u read all comments and ur ridicolous false ,u never make any correction of a problem, only words
Algo va muy mal en MTG cuando puedo saber exactamente durante centenas de veces y partidas diferentes que es lo que va a robar mi contrincante y que es lo que voy a robar yo. Juego totalmente amañado o bugeado. No es posible que haya ciertos jugadores que reciban las cartas de forma mecánica de tal forma que es inposible jugar pues hacen partidas 100% perfectas. El juego te hace robar durante turnos interminables maná o te da dos manás a lo largo de todo el juego. También las cartas de costes muy altos 5 y 6 salen siempre al principio de la partida, muchas veces hasta 4 copias de la misma carta, por ejemplo cuando lanzas o robas 1 invocar a la desesperación, siempre robas otro justo al momento, o cuando llevas una carta de coste 5 que te hace mucha falta para equilibrar la partida, te atascas en el cuarto maná y no lo robas hasta mucho tiempo después. También cada vez que exilias una carta al contrincante automáticamente se la vuelve a robar, también cuando te ponen una gran cantidad de fichas en juego, automáticamente te robas un removal masivo, también cuando no deja de darte maná hasta que el contrincante no te saca una o dos criaturas fuertes al juego no te robas otra cosas que no sea maná. Esto pasa mucho con los mazos azules, muchas veces son ayudados para ralentizar la partida. Por no hablar que cuando no pagas, solo empiezas 1 o 2 veces de cada 10 partidas y cada vez que juegas contra mono-red empieza el 90% de las veces mono-red a jugar. Es un engaño y espero que lo solucioneis pronto, pues esto es solo un ejemplo de los muchos patrones que tiene el juego. Pienso demostrar todo esto a través de vídeos y publicarlo en decenas de canales y webs si hace falta para desenmascarar esta farsa.
FIX THE F***ING RNG concerning the draw !
I CANNOT PLAY YOUR GAME : Half of the games are either floods or mana deaths !! I don't mind losing against nice opponents/decks, but I do when I lose because I cannot play cards !!!
quick example 2 games in a row : I drew 10 lands out of 16 cards !
and last time I played few days ago the exact opposite, stuck on 3 lands for 7/8 turns for several games (playing 17 lands for a 40 cards deck in draft)
how am I supposed to keep an interesting W/L ratio in draft if I can't play half of the games ?? even more for events you need to pay for (here, draft events), it's basically just giving you money without being able to play afterwards ....
Either you are rigging the games because I'm not spending money, or someone hacked my account and is causing me to get mana screwed every single game.
I'm guessing you're just a greedy company that gives an unfair advantage to those that spend money.
I spent money once and got to mythic rank in one day, but now the same deck won't let me get out of platinum.
Either your game is monetarily rigged, or my account is hacked.
This does not make any sense. Fix your broken shuffler. Why in MTGA every 2nd day I have situations that in paper Magic happen to me once in 5 years????
Wizards of the ****
W'olfa Nunh#03251 commented
It doesn't make any sense at all for new players with starter decks to go up against people with hundreds of dollars into their accounts. Why does 15 wins take 15+ hours for me to complete? Why can't we just play bot matches for 20 wins or something. It doesn't make sense why this win count is so dag gone high. Literally spending 3 hours for a single win is NOT FUN and doesn't make me want to spend money to make a deck at all when the money spent to make a deck that'll yield better win rates will cost me some astronomical figure for an RNG chance of getting something useable.
I really wish that the game would put people up against players of their caliber, instead of me sitting with a starter deck fighting against people playing Ulmog and Bolas or drawing a fight out with life gain for 30+ minutes because they like seeing big health numbers. Literally have no way of stopping any of that other than conceding (which i have to do so as to not waste anymore of my time).
Does anyone else have this problem? I mean ive only been playing for 4-5months and it's so glaring that out of 100 fights i only win 5 or 6. Are the dailies wins not really supposed to be dailies?
Anyways, the barrier to "fun" on this game costs a lil more than i think my plebian wallet can support. I have had some good matches where i lost (but it could've gone either way), just have more one sided matches with starter decks and the only decks i can find are all about brothers war and a few expansions below that, all of which i can't make because i dont have the cards.
Tocs Redle#81388 commented
Please review your algorithm that shuffles (randomizes) the deck. I consistently either draw no lands or only draw lands. Many times I have had matches where I drew 10 land in a row, only having 5 spells the entire match. My deck ratio of lands is 1:3. I should be drawing a land every third card, not 10 lands in a row, or conversely, no lands in 10 or 11 turns.
This is probably the most cancerous **** about Arena, i draw nothing but lands back to back to back to back, while my opponent has 3 collected companies back to back to back.....tell me something ain't wrong with your ********?
Hasbro is run by a bunch of posterior orifices.
you have to fix this bug, i lose a lot of game couse the game crash and the random system is so bad, in a deck balanced with 60 card 23 land 37 spell it's impossible play more than 3 game on 5 with no land or all land in my hand, it's not a real random condition, this fact ruin the game a lot.
I have said it time and time again. And i see a LOT of complains about arena and it seems to me they just ignore them.
- Shuffler is absolutly broken. (No lands, all lands, collor *****, tapped check lands in openers 1 or 2 off lands always in opening hands)
- The pairing algorithm. According to their vague discription you should be paired against your equal balanced opponent. Well... that doesn't work once. I lost to mono red on the draw more times i can count. Played 4 times in a row on the draw with my own version of red. As soon as i switch from deck that would be a better mu for me i NEVER see mono red again.
-Events are a complete joke. Ive tried the Explorer decatlon event. I tried twice played 4 matches. Got absolute demolished by a bot no doubt in my mind. He played 2 excactly the same games with mono green devotion. Impossible draws no chance. Really good way to take gems from everyone. Because we can't prove anything
- Pack cracking. Ive opened about 100 dominaria packs and still haven't gotten some uncs or rares. But got complete playsets of the "draft" filler rares.The rares you get from quests are also 9 out of 10 times not worth the hassle
- App stability. It doesn't matter where i play on what device and on what connection. Some games the app just freezes,keeps loading or shuts down. If you are in the middle of a game it just crashes and by the time u get back ( very very slow startup) your turn has passed and you can basicly scoop.
-last point. Content creators seem to have little to no problems at all and that says someting about visibility. They keep everything in the front running smoothly and fix visible problems quickly but anything else just gets ignored.
Probably this whole message will be either deleted or ignored but i gues it was worth a try