I'm sure you're getting a lot of complaints about how one-sided your algorithm is not being impartial and often times screwing over players with land draws that should not be happening in a purely random sample - so my complaint can be added to that pile.
But, an idea for changing the algorithm to improve randomization would be having the program assign a number to each card remaining in a deck and pile shuffling the cards into X amount of piles (let's say 6). It can repeat this process Y amount of times then take the middle of the pile and put those cards on top. A better template would be from the card shuffler for poker sets from stores.
Ive sent multiple emails and they say it works how its designed. I fkn hate these workers and the broken designs they created. Its such a bs reply
Lumovanis#92496 there are so many new players that NEED the benefit of the algorithms to win, they are the ones going first more often than not. It gives them a false sense of accomplishment, and keeps them in the game longer. (Hasbro has doubled down on the fact that they think they make more money off clueless newbie whales while lobbing up veterans as sacrifice, as opposed to providing a good, fair experience for everyone and reaping the long term profits wizards has been taking for years from us, but I digress. Hasbro wants that money now.) The people who have no problems winning without the algorithms are the folks who are constantly getting screwed by it. The worst part is, the noobs who are getting propped up by it, can't tell its even happening and will even straight up deny it meanwhile veterans see it clear as day because we know how Magic has worked for years before arena was ever a thing.
Except for it’s not a randomized algorithm they’re promoting cards they want everyone to buy all the new cards and copy paste the latest net deck if you copy paste the latest “championship deck” you will get perfect land draw and curve, make your own deck and watch out… They can’t have someone making their own deck climbing the ladder
Wow. Where do I start?
Deleted the app for a few weeks. And it felt really good. Then Brothers War dropped. I'm a huge fan of artifact sets so I reinstalled.
What was I met with? The SAME EXACT BS that has caused me and literally every single magic player I k owing to delete this app. BLATANT MANIPULATION.
Yall act like we can't see it and treat us like idiots when we point it out. You have trained the dregs of the internet to gaslight people in your honor. Even Bank of America has written about your demise.
YET YOU STILL THINK MANIPULATION IS WHAT WILL MAKE YOU MONEY.
I've played five games since reinstalling the app. Historic Brawl. All five games, needlethorn drake in the opening hand. All five games, opponent hit perfect curve with perfect interaction and won with a top deck. These types of games happen, if you're lucky, once a year. But in arena, it's every day.
When will you realize that your dedicated players will keep you alive, not the whales who will swim away after you've used them up?
you need to update or at the very least rebalance the RNG for the entire game. When you play multiple games in a row if you win more than one in a row you suddenly start getting multiple games in a row where you are mana starved (despite deck being 50% lands going entire matches without drawing a single land after initial draw) or mana bloated (going entire games where you get nothing but lands after initial draw) once or two times in a row is understandable but going 4-5 games in a row like this is RNG issue. Although i am loathe to make accusations it sure seems to be intentional balancing of win/loss ratios (ie. win 3 in a row and suddenly next 3 are completely unwinnable due to draw issues)
give us option to reshuffle deck at the start of match before initial draw or you know get a better RNG
This game is utterly rigged. I have made it to mythic multiple times and it's horrible because you force losing streaks. How the **** does the same deck have issues with too much and too little mana on a consistent basis. Why do I see 2-3 different decks. Why the **** do I see 4/4 of multiple cards in my opponents deck every game. Why does the game constantly crash, have sound bugs, and cost so much ******* money.
You have ruined one of my favorite games. Which is impressive because I've endured a ton of bs over the past 20+ years. Uninstalled this dog **** game. Hasbruh ************.
I stopped playing a couple weeks ago. The shuffler rigging is hard to say for sure but it feels like rigged, however the play/draw is blatant. It can’t be statistically off for so many people, and it clearly is not pure random. You don’t get 10x coin flips heads so consistently for so many people.
Best case scenario it’s a bug. Worst case it’s manipulation. Either way I’m not coming back until WOTC decisively confirms it isn’t rigged, with credible evidence and explanation.
i've reached a milestone of going second more than 250 times than i've gone first. that means someone out there has gone first more than 500 times than i have. if going first is determined by how much money you've spent in-game, what else is determined by how much you spend?
Its been 95% opponent goes first for me for an entire year no matter what deck i use, even when its a mirror match, or going against someone using a red haste deck. This algorithm is so broken if its not fixed by the next update im done. I know wizards doesnt care that I'll be deleting and no longer playing but im being generous when i say its ONLY 95% of the time opponent goes first. Im done. like done done with this game
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Land draws is only scratching the surface. Why do I draw 4/4 negates every game by turn 4? why do I never see 1/4 of my fading hopes? The shuffler seems to pick favorite cards and feed them to you non stop, while other, more useful cards are never seen. This game is terrible, and its sad because the UI is beautiful. Sad Wizards and hasbro decided to cheat players hands to encourage spending. very manipulative, and sad there are 50k people playing too stupid to notice all of the statistical anomolies.
Amen! I have had this issue for 2 years now, at one point i spent an entire week to get more than 2 mana in my first hand, with 100s of games, and still no luck, this year i tried again, same thing happens, what a waste! Why should i pay any money for non-functioning software?!
Mana Pull is ridiculous, 12x games with 7x mulligans each = 84x hand draws, FIX ASAP!!!!! Version 2022.20.1.4318.962619, only 1-2 mana every time!
Tired of the matchmaker being horrendous. I'd say 25% of games are decently matched at best. Majority of the time the game is extremely one sided, usually in the opponents favor. Also has to do with the shuffler where the opponent gets god draws and has the perfect hand, curve and answers to anything I play while my draws are inconsistent or land flooded. You have to fix these issues. This game is going downhill fast and the devs and WotC don't even care.
I was on the draw for my first 12 games today (Brawl) in a row! My engineering days are long behind me, but if the system is truly random then I won a jackpot with this 1 in 4,096 streak. Now I'm a lawyer, and think this qualifies as negligent (or maybe intentional) infliction of emotional distress...
back again about how this BS game is rigged with "opponent goes first". i kept track of my games for the past three months. the "differential" right now between going first or second is over 200 times. meaning , i've gone second more than 200 times than i've gone first. that means someone out there has the same "differential" in the opposite direction: going first 400 times more than going second. i can't say exactly how much an average win percentage will be when you go first, but i'd bet it is at least a 10% bump. this game is rigged by who goes first: spend money = go first more often. what else is rigged?
best of one You will be on the draw far more often depending on what your deck has in it. if it's a Simic deck with lots of fast creatures, chances are you're going second.
This game is so rigged its pathetic. In 20+ years of playing MTG i have never experienced so many issues involving mana screws. I have never made it 10+ draws in with zero lands in a deck thats 50% lands. Now its a multiple times an hour thing.
WoTC should really find a way to block arena tracker. its really bringing to lite how often i go second (78% on the draw). Thats fair. Also, just look at the decks you play. The meta is supposedly all midragne aggro, yet if you play control you never see those decks. Switch to an aggro deck and all of a sudden there those decks are every game.
Stop rigging starting hands. Stop fixing games with mana ***** mechanics. Fix the non existent economy. Fix the rigged matchmaker. Literally do anything to make the game better.
right now the game and community are so bad its laughable. There is zero skill involved in this Arena. Games are won based on luck, money spent, and shuffler rigging. The amount of times you will have 4/4 of multiple cards 5 draws into the game is insane. The amount of times you will be mana starved with over half a deck of lands is insane. The fact entire decks are deleted from your play rotation based on what you play is flat out gross.
This game is nothing more than a sad cash grab. WoTC themselves admitted nothing is random. Not to rig the game, but because "truly random events do not seem random" whatever that BS means. The game is rigged. 20+ years of paper play makes it blatant. The huge amount of statistical anomalies that are experienced by huge amounts of the player base should be enough. The million game studies that have been done proved the game is rigged, theres card clumping, and mana ***** is way to common.
The UI is beautiful, but the game is far from MTG. it uses the same cards, but feels scripted. wins and losses feel predetermined. The game is less exciting and more disappointing. AVOID THIS TRASH AT ALL COSTS
This game is unbearable. Stop "smoothing" my hands. stop rigging the match maker. This game is absolute trash,
I play draft which cost 1500 gems to sign up for.
Against my better judgment I spent 20 $ again.
Everytime it's the same, but my last draft beats it all.
Every few games it's either no lands of the right color, or mana flow, 1 land after the other. Tell me what is the point of playing a game if in more than half of the games the winner is already pre determent by a broken mechanism. It's like playing slot machines except there's nothing to win here. Anyway, that last draft I had to start second EVERY SINGLE TIME. 5 games in a row I go last, costing me ATLEAST 1 or 2 of my losses. Mana ***** cost me the third. WHY would I spend more money for something that only works on the surface. It's downright disheartening. IF I had a chance to trade my 4-5 year old account back for that last 20$ I would immediately.