Algorithm Improvement
I'm sure you're getting a lot of complaints about how one-sided your algorithm is not being impartial and often times screwing over players with land draws that should not be happening in a purely random sample - so my complaint can be added to that pile.
But, an idea for changing the algorithm to improve randomization would be having the program assign a number to each card remaining in a deck and pile shuffling the cards into X amount of piles (let's say 6). It can repeat this process Y amount of times then take the middle of the pile and put those cards on top. A better template would be from the card shuffler for poker sets from stores.
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kwall86#86208 commented
The draw algorithm has been proven to cheat. How the game draws cards as per your website is against the rules of magic. There is no reason why i should consistantly draw 3 copies of one card. Put 24 lands in a deck and you get 2 lands total all game. Put 20 lands in a deck and you get all lands. Make it at least make sense. You have been given evidence upon evidence of all of this and you still refuse to fix the main issue with the game. Every paper magic player i have encountered complains about your cheating shenanigans. I have even drawn 5 copies of cards in one game. Sometmes it has been 5 turns in a row drawing the same card. Just fix it and stop the ****.
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MysticSquid#48745 commented
quick Question . how is it possible to properly tune a deck when your shuffler keeps either massive amounts of mana or almost none every game. Like seriously how can you tune a deck without being able to figure out if you have too much land or not enough. last 10 games have been either 12+ land runs or by turn 10 struggling with only 3 or 4 lands. I really dont know how it is possible. Are you guys suggesting we abandon trying to build our own decks and just use net decks, or only ply mono aggro decks? Or are you just trying to alienate the crafting part of the community?
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player2aj#16271 commented
As the title says.
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quentin#51669 commented
aunque tengo un mazo de 60 cartas siempre juego con 4 o 5 cartas que tocan tras barajar, en otros combates decaparecen las tierras, y en otro combates solo me salen encantamientos, buen algoritmo, entiendo que se premie de alguna manera al que compra asiduamente pero es vergonzoso
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MysticSquid#48745 commented
just wanted to point out the algorithm used by your shuffler is showing patterns that could be exploited. I have been playing and recording my game data for long enough that I can see the patterns used by your shuffler. Such as I know when I'm going to get mana flooded because this specific card appears in my opening hand, or when I'm going to get a god draw because this other card is in my opening hand . It is also possible to predict the next card draw I'm going to get. And this is all just playing the game without any programs running other then your game. You really should go back to the old shuffler for ranked games and events as the hand smoothing thing is a huge failure .
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itsmycj8#29398 commented
The shuffling algorithm is garbage. I have a deck the sat has 84 lands and in the last 10 games, 7 of them had me receive less than 2 lands in the first 5 turns that's bullsh*t!!!
That's no way whatever algorithm you use wouldn't give the player a card that is literally 1 out of every 4 cards in the deck.
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WisemanYata#71806 commented
This deck only has twenty lands in an even split.
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Shadow-Banned91#26944 commented
Just remember they deleted the old shuffler algo posting the current pic is about a year old..the most recent shuffler topic had over 3k hits with 10k plus comments..trust me wizards does not care what we think..its all about cranking out half *** product and shoving alchemy down our throats..and if they happen to go out of their way to ban your account or comments or threads chances are you hit the nail on the head..wizards knows exactly what they are doing..remember "IT'S WORKING AS INTENDED "
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Vulrynn#43233 commented
I hope you look all day, because frankly its unplayable. I watch guys with 4 or 5 color decks draw or have every land when they need it. Do I need to pay an insider to rig the algo for me?
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Vulrynn#43233 commented
There is no way, I have played all night. There has been 40 percent chance to draw lands all day no lands lose lose lose lose, do I need to go fifty percent 90 percent, its a draft and how the **** do these people have all the good cards, I mean every single one, there is just no way unless the game is rigged or they are cheating.
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klIIerKing#94798 commented
The game is absolutely horrible. And I hope anyone who has the brains to read these comments before downloading doesn’t spend a dime, or better yet, just downloads a better game. It’s unplayable period. The algorithm is completely messed up. It forces you to spend money to be able to make better decks. But it still doesn’t help because the shuffler is also rigged so that you still lose due to mana swamp or mana poor scenarios. DONT PLAY THIS GAME. ITS TRASH.
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Dannywiz#08434 commented
You should public declare how the shuffler works because lot of players complain about it.
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ExodusTheBard#99252 commented
I run go-shintai shrine tribal in historic brawl. The deck runs 36 lands. The algorithm that "randomizes" my hand has been giving me two lands in my starting hand with annoying regularity, several times I've had to mull down to 0 and it still won't give me more than two.
Make your algorithm truly random. Don't force a balance in my hand I don't want, this has never happened with the paper copy of it I have.
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DarkNoble#00880 commented
Here are a couple of times I remembered to screenshot the hijinks.
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DarkNoble#00880 commented
Please, please, implement a way to opt out of the hand-smoothing and matchmaking algorithms. I've been tracking my games and I lose way more to the shuffler than to my own mistakes/opponents. I get hands that start with two mana and then no mana til turn six while you are drawing all the most expensive cards in your deck, or hands that start with 3 and boy those other 4 better be good because you have 5-6 lands on the top of your deck to fight whatever your opponent gets. It's like you want to remove needing to understand math and probability out of the game and make sure it's dumbed down enough for everyone. Problem is, that fundamentally changes the game for the worse (doesn't even feel like real Magic, more like a competitor knock-off) and makes veteran players who in some cases (like myself) have almost 30 years of experience building decks, supporting YOUR game and money-maker want to walk away from this platform. I'd rather go back to playing on busted third party unofficial platforms that at least offer random matches and random shuffling as opposed to your "curated to remove the need for intelligence" style of matchmaking and shuffling. At this point, it is OBVIOUS to everyone that this is a terrible system. Please, if you're so fond of the algorithm, at least allow players to opt out of it so you guys can still milk the people who can't add or cipher probabilities for themselves while still letting those of us who can do math to enjoy the game as we do in paper. You don't get to hand select or get paired with people based on what you and they are playing, again this is not native to Magic the Gathering and fundamentally changes the game for the worse. Please, don't kill this game to make a buck. They've already done that with the environment and people's minds, not Magic too, please!!
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DarkNoble#00880 commented
I can't agree more with Mystic Squid (previous comment), I've been tracking my games and I lose way more to the shuffler than to my own mistakes/opponent. I get hands that start with two mana and then no mana til turn six while you are drawing all the most expensive cards in your deck, or hands that start with 3 and boy those other 4 better be good because you have 5-6 lands on the top of your deck to fight whatever your opponent gets. It's like you want to remove needing to understand math and probability out of the game and make sure it's dumbed down enough for everyone. Problem is, that fundamentally changes the game for the worse and makes veteran players who in some cases (like myself) have almost 30 years of experience building decks, supporting YOUR game and money-maker want to walk away from this platform. I'd rather go back to playing on busted third party unofficial platforms that at least offer random matches and random shuffling as opposed to your "curated to remove the need for intelligence" style of matchmaking and shuffling. At this point, it is OBVIOUS to everyone that this is a terrible system. Please, if you're so fond of the algorithm, at least allow players to opt out of it so you guys can still milk the people who can't add or cipher probabilities for themselves while still letting those of us who can do math to enjoy the game as we do in paper. Please, don't kill this game to make a buck. They've already done that with the environment and people's minds, not Magic too, please!!
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Hyperbolic#77891 commented
It is soooo frustrating. I played 13 times today loos 11 times. There is nothing I can do. The decks i play are top decks, have curves, have win-cons. But I ALWAYS(!) got matchups where my opponent gets a smooth curve and I don't get any of the cards that would deal with the situation. Also I play aggro I get a nicely curved out control deck as opponent - I play control on the opposit I immetiately get a nicely curved out aggro deck like boros or enchantemnts and loose immediately. I play an anti-enchantments deck and suddenly no enchantments opponents anymore while 6-7 out of 10 games before have been selesnya-enchantment. The point is if you look at the stats on i.eg aetherhub the decks are not that present in the meta. So it must be rigged. I understand that such loosing streaks might happen but this what I experienced is without a doubt systematically and really creating the worst game experience. Why do I stick to it. Because I invested in cards. You know that wizards. What's the purpose of creating such imbalances and injustices into the gameplay? Why do you favor players among other players wizards? What is your agenda?
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klIIerKing#94798 commented
Absolutely maddening. I’ve been playing for 2 years now and nothing has changed. It has become predictable how the match will turn out. No third mana till turn 5 or completely mana swamped till turn 12 or 13. The matchmaking is an absolute joke. I don’t know how we keep punishing ourselves by playing this rigged game.
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InscrutableMe#81477 commented
The clusterfcuk that is arena matchmaking/shuffling continues...
Today, played 32 games on BO1 ladder and lost 22. in 18 of those losses, I either failed to make my 3rd land-drop until turn 5 or later, or, had 8 lands in the first 12 cards. Opponents always curve out. This is just today. It's a pattern that repeats itself week after week after week; but fret not, this is just representative of normal statistical play patterns. Also, apparently, everybody else on arena only plays Selesnya Enchantments, Gruul or Boros and are such bad players that they are always allowed to go first.
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TunaHotPockets#80631 commented
There is no hand-smoothing in Best-of-3. Perhaps its time to play the real version of MTG and ditch BO1?