Algorithm Improvement
I'm sure you're getting a lot of complaints about how one-sided your algorithm is not being impartial and often times screwing over players with land draws that should not be happening in a purely random sample - so my complaint can be added to that pile.
But, an idea for changing the algorithm to improve randomization would be having the program assign a number to each card remaining in a deck and pile shuffling the cards into X amount of piles (let's say 6). It can repeat this process Y amount of times then take the middle of the pile and put those cards on top. A better template would be from the card shuffler for poker sets from stores.
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non-inflammable#06016 commented
I too tracked my games. THIS IS NOT BIAS. in my very first day of tracking games, i went first 22 times and second 41 times. i have played every day for a month and tracked all of my games. so far, i went first 522 times and second 622 times. there was a streak where i went second 13 straight times. on the other side of that, the most i went first was 6 times straight and i was absolutely stunned to go first that many times in a row...
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Znel#45819 commented
Hello, I already quit the game before because of this and I just got back and tried to see if this is fixed but it still isn't
It seems all my hands are always fixed to be bad, I keep getting bad draws and this makes me lose very often. Im not a bad player and in rel life I dont have this issues, it is just some algorithm in Arena that is making this. I spent too much but Im not willing to spend any more if you keep having this behavior.
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zudish#98296 commented
Matchmaking is so BROKING! I won't say anymore because everyone already has stated what needs to be said. This is absurd and absolutely unenjoyable. Please fix the fixed matchmaking. It is so rigged it hurts....
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MysticSquid#48745 commented
Your shuffler needs to get randomized, I can send you my deck list and I can tell you which card , if I get it in my opening hand I don't have a chance . This is not a conspiracy theory. I have recorded the statistics for several hundred thousand games and every single time I get flooded with mana to the point that on average my first 10 - 15 draws will be only lands. If your shuffler has such apparent patterns maybe you should change it. I can also prove that your shuffler does favor specific deck arch types. Another thing I would like is the contact info for someone that can actually do something to address my issue as you guys are just going to feed some BS scripted garbage if you respond at all. I have a petition started that has a few thousand names of players who want the option to turn off hand smoothing for themselves. If you just ignore me I can release my findings publicly and let the community decide for themselves if arena is worth paying into.
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Nessinho#62865 commented
It is not the first time it happens, it is maybe a bug or a hack, 7 draws.... 7 lands in a deck of 19 lands.... call me crazy, but the chances of that happenings once are very few, but 4 or 5 times it seems a hard problem.
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Lumovanis#92496 commented
I want to know who out there is getting to go first most of the time to make up for the fact I get to go second at least 8/10 matches. I've lost so many games to going second that it really is beginning to irk me after these years. This is not a case of "you only remember the negatives", I am honestly gobstruck when I get to go first.
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Sairdontis#86036 commented
I just wish that going first didn't mean so much to the game.
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Skunky Budtoker#00422 commented
Is Wizards of the Coast trying to kill Magic the Gathering? Arena is garbage. Fix the **** shuffler! Quit giving people whom give you money an unfair advantage. We all know you're cheating for the people that pay you money.
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GFY-FOAD#45803 commented
I have a great Idea - how about you stop manipulating the game in the background. Stop with the " hand smoothing " fix the matchmaking and I don't know what to say about the " shuffler ". The game is a complete festering pile of burning garbage. How's that for a great Idea? Probably not going to happen as it seems WOTC is just bent towards separating morons from their money. Buying worthless pixel products. No value
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NeverSurrender#02579 commented
Update; guess what? Here we go again. I lost *three games in a row* and i get this.
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NeverSurrender#02579 commented
There is 0 reason under this sun to match me, a low level plat player, against #265 in the whole game. I do not *care* how many games i won beforehand (spoiler alert, it was 2) I should have never even seen this person unless I am that good. And I'm not. My ranked dropped 2 slots for this. And customer supp says AlGoRiThMs ArE WoRkInG aS iNtEnDeD.
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evernessince#48838 commented
I just started playing MTG Arena and they are having my starter decks face off against decks worth over 10x the value. I've played paper for over 20 years and that experience was just terrible so I can only imagine what beginners think.
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DCarnage#32456 commented
One Legion Angel in the deck but always draw it in the first 15 cards, always. Not just my opponents but me as well. Want logs? I have logs. It works out for me but the opponent as well. Fix your shuffler, we're tired of your... compost (trying to be PC and not trigger you).
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james2178#58449 commented
This game is rigged, the problem is not the matrchmaking, it's just that when the game dont wan't you win, you will win never.
It's just the true.
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Duskobserver#49904 commented
Explorer also.
Bro, this game is an absolute JOKE. Pure scamming, outside ANY probabilistic logic.
There's an ENORMOUS BUG in the shuffling algorithm and you are taking money from people who trust you and think it's "randomized". Pure scamming. -
Duskobserver#49904 commented
How strange it is, that you have a VERY solid draft deck on Platinum, you go 3-0 against players ranked higher than you and then, suddenly you find yourself 3-3 with the last 30 draws where you draw the 95% of lands in the deck.
From a statistical point of view this is near to impossible, but for Wizards of the Coast this seems to be regular stuff. Deliberately biased algorithm to cut down who ranks to fast.
But hey, don't worry, I bet antitrust and gambling authorities will soon pay a visit to you. ;) -
DCarnage#32456 commented
This was all ranked. We are tired of bs.. To be honest, you will probably delete this whole thread because one exists somewhere or P.R. reasons or something. Seriously though stop stacking decks based on strong cards. We know you do it and it's freaking disgusting. All of the streamers I watch know it's true. CGB, LegenVD, MTG Malone, Crokeyz, Day9V, Sonio, Nizzahon Magic, Ali Eldrazi, Pootin, MTG Original Decks (Aka TheGreatWhitDragon), The Magic Historian, PowrDragn, MTGGoldfish, ChannelFireball, etc. Basically your programmers are horrible, stop it, get some help.
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DCarnage#32456 commented
The shuffler is fine... Seriously, stop it.
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DCarnage#32456 commented
By the end of the game they had 4 copies of Kami of Transience, 2 copies of Jukai Naturalist, 4 copies of Touch the Spirit Region, 3 copies of Commune with the Spirits... I mean, come on. Stop stacking the deck for already super strong decks.
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InscrutableMe#81477 commented
I have to totally concur with the sentiments expressed in thisthread. Since the release of Alchemy it has become impossible to progress in ranked play beyond Platinum. Irrespective of the decks I play in the standard format, I am constantly being matched against players that either have dream curves or are ably assisted by the shuffler either providing me with 9 lands in my first 12 cards or ensuring I don't get my 3rd land drop until turn 5. In the last 2 days I have played 41 games and de-ranked from Platinum 3 (5) to Platinum 4 (0) and only wining 14 of those games on ladder. That's a 14:27 loss rate. I'm not the worlds greatest player, but I'm not a complete muppet either. Fix your game before your cynical money grubbing approach of trying to push people into your idiotic Alchemy format completely trashes Wizards reputation.