They should separate both! We are literally forced to play alchemy chards.. when people in MTGO have access to all the cards and can brew whatever they like. With us we get conjuring cards from a book of 15 cards hoping we can get a card that's useful. Just separate the two formats...

I don't like alchemy as i want to play decks also available in paper. And i sometimes want to build decks from pro tour finalists and play them in the same environement.

Please take alchemy out of historic. you could make separate alchemy historic and would probably see only a few playing there and much more in historic as it was.

I now switched over playing more explorer, because it's free of alchemy. But i would love to play some historic elves again without running into mirror matches with weird alchemy elves or other ugly alchemy stuff.

They nerfed my Kumano Faces Kakkazan. Now I can't play mono red in Historic because of this ****. Ridiculous.

Historic was by far my preferred format after Alchemy introduction. Then I quitted completely. I play Arena as a way to keep up to speed with the physical game, but the introduction of Alchemy made this impossible

How long until we can play all our cards without Alchemy in a sort of Arena Vintage? How long until Historic goes back to its original intention?

Alchemy really sucks. It seems a grab money move. I ask to you if you re really thinking that in Alchemy cards are balanced... if you think that maybe you have some mind problem. Leave historic alone

I would love to play with the lord of the rings set, but alchemy changes what makes historic unique with how much randomness it creates. I get people who wanna play alchemy but I don’t want to cause it adds so many no skill mechanics like conjure. That’s what brawl is for or alchemy play. Not saying it doesn’t have a place but arena is a good teaching tool for new players and I think what scares new players is few formats to choose from. Not everybody wants to play standard or any format. Like why support a format so few people are interested in when you release a modern set on platform that doesn’t even have it, and the format we could play that in is plagued by cards that go +3 at minimum

Just give us historic adjacent formats. Historic and historic brawl but without digital only "cards" or rebalances.

How is it that I'm seeing mail in arena about "on the subject of ninja's kunai.." etc which had way less votes than this, and yet this is not being addressed.

I know you all see this gathering momentum and yet you 'choose' to ignore it.

Every company thinks they're irreplaceable until they're replaced.

Just saying.

Seek. Perpetual. Draft from spellbook. Conjure. Double team. Boon. And whatever else.

It doesn't belong in magic. Not in the way you force onto players anyway.

At first you made us fight the good fight just to have a historic queue. I, like many others, remember how you made us PAY GOLD AND GEMS to play the historic queue. We had cards in our collection and couldn't play them. You charged us DOUBLE WILDCARDS TO CRAFT historic cards. We jumped through your hoops and SHOWED YOU THAT WE WANTED AN ETERNAL FORMAT where we could play our cards. cards we have often paid real money for.

And how do you repay us?

With a bunch of digital only cards which nobody asked for or wanted, which completely warp the historic format into something we hate. My question is why? We all keep telling you WE DON'T LIKE IT, and yet you keep catering to the minority of people who want to play alchemy.

Give them a separate queue and let them fight to keep show you how much they want to keep their precious alchemy cards. Heck, why not charge them to play alchemy like you charged us to play historic? That way you'll know they really want it! Alchemy is dead. The only reason why it still persists is because you seeded it into the historic format and it latches on like a leech. I don't understand why you made us fight tooth and nail for the ability to play our non-standard legal cards, but you're forcing something that we don't want down our throats. Please for the love of magic GIVE US OUR HISTORIC FORMAT BACK!!!

We don't want to play historic brawl WITH alchemy.
We don't want to have to put up with unrealistic games where opponents just get to manipulate decks to tutor cards with busted seek mechanics (cabaretti revels..)
We don't want to have to put up with losses to decks that essentially don't play by the rules of magic.

It's infuriating when you lose to a deck which is practically 90% alchemy versus your real card deck, and the only reason you lose is because it feels like you and your opponent are playing two entirely different card games!! It's beyond a joke now, and the only reason many people still play is because we already invested so heavily into the format. What you're doing though, is taking advantage of us. I wonder how long before the camel's back breaks..

Yes, granted we have explorer... But why shouldn't we get to play with our historic anthology cards which we have paid for?

Please put the pride and ego aside and do something positive for the game starting with separating the alchemy and historic queue. Get back in touch with how the player base feels and put 'people' back into the decision making aspect of the game. I'm sure you'd be surprised by the results (or not, you probably already know nobody want's to play alchemy)

Whatever.

The creators don't care about the fanbase and it will never change

Totally agree, alchemy is the worst possible format and almost every player aree with that.
No one want to play a format that cannot be played with real cards as well.

TBH everyone should just stop playing it in order to force wizard to remove it, but some people are just abusing the format to easily grind BO1 in an unbalanced format.

Alchemy has ruined Arena. You'd make much more money giving players the option of avoiding alchemy.

Looks like WotC is no longer about the players...

Remove alchemy cards and alchemy changed cards from historic. They make the game annoying and unfun because alchemy cards don't have any answers. You can't counter a draft or play an artifact that turns off seek abilities. These are awful mechanics that make the game only have combos and over powered.

Please seperate alchemy from historic. Also allow the origional versions of cards to be player or ban them.

It has been a year now, and while I've been able to play explorer for 6 months, there is no explorer brawl. There is only historic brawl which is infected with alchemy ********.

I have not spent a single penny on any magic product for a year now.
Want to make it 2 years?

Please allow Historic to remain a eternal format that is at parity with the Physical printed Cards.
It's not fun playing with a card that only exists online and cannot be played with in real life.
(Please remove alchemy cards from Historic)

Please remove alchemy from historic, is a pain to play as a casual player (on arena), as I know what the printed card does but is a completely different card on arena. Please remove the fake cards from historic

Alchemy is such a failure of trashy untested wannabe other game mechanics that do not belong in MTG at all. They do not work well with the existing cards and have completely ruined Historic. Here we are literally a year later and we have yet to see Wizards actually remove these piles of trash from Arena or at least from Historic despite every single historic player asking them to. Meanwhile the client and economy suffer.

Alchemy is just ruining the game and these sleeze bags at WOTC and Hasbro are so ******* greedy and dumb they refuse to admit a mistake and remove alchemy or at least release historic from its gross grip.

Whoever is designing the trash alchemy cards should have been fired long long ago but we continue to see the same garbage thrown at us with a price tag regardless.

I refuse to use Alchemy cards in Historic. Alchemy is cancerous cash grab, with stolen mechanics from Hearthstone, and is purely meant to attract Hearthstone's dying player base. The same abilities they are adding into Historic, is what killed Hearthstone. If you wanna swipe players from a dying game, sure, whatever, I guess I get that... but force them to circle jerk about this bad, unbalanced, cancerous, gameplay they for some reason enjoy, way, way away from me.