Product Suggestion Leave Historic Alone
With the new Alchemy format, can we please have it separated from Historic? You are going to be nerfing cards considering the standard environment, please leave them alone for Historic decks.
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Tobias Broad#93841 commented
Leave Historic alone!
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Cuzaloo#36843 commented
I do not support the decision to alter historic cards without providing compensation. Historic is the only format I care about on arena. If it is changed I will no longer be making purchases on arena or using the arena client.
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FlawlessRuby#81925 commented
I just want to enjoy a product I paid for without the fear of having WotC nerf my cards without compensation. I don't feel safe buying gems and bundle if my product could be change at anytime without anything in return. If the mode was separated, I would be happy to continue support the game.
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Lictomco#18973 commented
Dont affect Historic. It is the only format I enjoy in Arena. But if the nerfs reach it, I might just quit playing Arena.
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Imbadatgames1212#35526 commented
******** wizards
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Greyhawke#79045 commented
I support leaving historic alone. I've spent hundreds of dollars so that I could practice paper magic and I want my cards to work the same in both formats.
Feel free to have a separate Alchemy Historic and separate Alchemy Historic Brawl. It's fine as an optional format.
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WarPig#76864 commented
Just adding my voice, that even though I do not like the digital only design I feel positive about a separate Alchemy queue.
What I can not get behind, is changing the nature of a long standing format like Historic. Players (myself very much included) put money, time and energy towards building a card pool for the ONLY eternal game mode Arena offers and I am frankly insulted that you would just push such a change against the interest of your player base.Customers might not always know what they want, but we very much DO know what we don't want!
PS: On a separate note - THIS is what you have been prioritizing over long standing bug fixes and client issues? THIS is what you have been prioritizing over remastered drafts and Pioneer support? THIS is what you have been prioritizing over actual features like spectator mode, play blade re-designs or multiplayer. You do NOT understand your player base and I am severely disappointed by the waste of the potential Arena once had.
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Paddzilla#90743 commented
100% opposed to this change.
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dnmbowie#88329 commented
I’m not opposed to an alchemy format that includes all cards on arena. But there should be a “historic” format that lives up to its name and does not change the cards. History doesn’t change, it is what it was. Let us have a format where we can use all of the cards we had in standard and standards past.
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FriendOfEntropy#51217 commented
Historic Alchemy should be a distinct format where the digital only AND the rebalanced cards live. Regular Historic should track as close to the paper cards as possible. I understand regular Historic was "curated", but it was curated with masters and anthologies of previous paper cards, and that was fine and lovely. Just don't curate it with digital only like the last JMP, and certainly don't destroy cards we have and the fidelity with the paper game by forcing "rebalanced" cards on us.
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BubbaBigBass#20677 commented
New formats are fun. However, Alchemy needs to remain its own independent product. Historic and Historic Brawl should not be looped into a new game design.
#leavehistoricalone
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JhonBryant#97336 commented
it’s so obvious that none of you care about anything other than the ******* bottom line.
super ******* disrespected. you just don’t want eternal formats so people can’t sit on their decks and not buy new cards without you guys printing a fun set.
if i buy something as is. i’m expecting it to remain as is. not buying a car that drives and then being told that i drive to fast so my entire engine gets swapped. you people are abusing your powers.
gonna quit playing and spending money on both paper mtg and mtga if historic is messed with. i hate that there’s literally 0 ******* fan engagement with this billion dollar brand. it’s not like mtga players are hiding our wishes from you. and you chose to ignore what we ask for
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stormbringer#12054 commented
As a limited/historic player, this change means I will stop playing historic after I'm done drafting new sets, and possibly just stop playing MTGA altogether - I'm not really interested in Standard, which tends to be quite bad, or constantly rebalanced Hearthstone-like nonsense.
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VVYZzed#51009 commented
IF I PAY FOR SOMETHING "AS IT IS" BECAUSE IT IS "AS IT IS" THEN YOU SHOULD LET IT "AS IT IS".
LEGAL BASIC STUFF HERE.CUSTOMERS RULE 1: IF A CUSTOMER ALREADY PAID A PRODUCT, NOBODY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMOVE ONE OF THE FEATURES EVEN A SINGLE DAY AFTER THE TRANSACTION.
EXAMPLE:
(OH NO FINALLY YOU BROUGHT THE HOUSE WITH A ROOF BUT NOWADAYS, ROOFS ARE REMOVED SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OFF THE ROOF AND LET YOU THERE WITHOUT COMPENSATION ?)THEN YOU SHOULD PAY ME FOR CHANGING THE ACTUAL CONTRACT.
IF YOU CHANGE "AS IT IS" I DON'T KNOW WHY I'VE PAID THEN. WHY WILL I CONTINUE TO DO SO ?
WHERE CAN I PLACE MY TRUST IF THE PRODUCTS I BOUGHT KEEPS CHANGING EVERY MORNING BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF VISION OF AN INEXISTANT R&D SINCE M20 ?TELL ME HOW PEOPLE WOULD PLAY IN HISTORIC ? TELL ME WHY WOULD THEY KEEP THE NERFED VERSION OF A CARD OVER THE BUFFED ? AND TELL ME HOW IT DOESN'T AFFECT HISTORIC IF THE QUEUE'S ARE MIXED ?
AND MOST OF ALL, TELL ME HOW HAVING 2 SIMILARD STANDARDS FORMATS ARE NOT GOING TO CONFUSE PEOPLE ?WE ARE THE CUSTOMERS OF A FINAL PRODUCT, NOT THE BETA TESTERS OF AN UNCERTAIN ONE. AT LEAST IF WE PARTICIPATE THAT WAY BY GIVING SUCH AN INCREDIBLE STACK OF DATA'S, PAY US FOR DOING THE JOB YOU'VE BEEN SUPPOSED TO DO FOR YEARS INSTEAD OF KILLING US IN THE BACK.
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Veloso#50039 commented
I applaud you for giving players the choice between paper-like Standard, and a dynamically-changing Standard with online-only mechanics. Letting players pick was the right decision!
Forcing Historic players into the new dynamic paradigm feels very bad to lovers of the format. I can't speak for everyone, but one of the reasons I love non-rotating formats is their stability; it's very concerning to see you striking at that.
At the very least, please consider giving us Traditional Historic and Alchemy Historic as two separate formats. If this takes the digital-only Jumpstart cards out of traditional Historic, so much the better!
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JohanShogun#14044 commented
Just make a real historic and alchemy historic queues.
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SvC#36839 commented
Leave Historic alone or I will simply uninstall, its the only format Im completely invested in and your stupid decisions are really hurting the game
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Bliza#73862 commented
Jfc let us have an actual eternal format.
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alexm#36939 commented
If you don't #LeaveHistoricAlone, I'll want all my money back! ffs..
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joony_a#97813 commented
You could start paying to play testers instead of destroying decks we already pay for without giving us anything in exchange. Sorry this in a monetary move only to sell more packs. If old cards are make worse and digital only cards are the rule that can also change in any moment I don’t want to keep playing this game.