Product Suggestion Leave Historic Alone
With the new Alchemy format, can we please have it separated from Historic? You are going to be nerfing cards considering the standard environment, please leave them alone for Historic decks.
Please Wizards, give us back Historic as it was. Or another non rotating non changing format without the use of the digital “must play to be able to compete” cards.
For all of us who don’t enjoy the digital only cards, I can safely claim that the changes to Historic feel a lot like actual theft of our money and time. Or give us back a significant chunk of our money as the cards we buy are only playable for 2 years in standard instead of the promised “forever”.
It's a new year, and I am STILL not playing MTGA.
Clearly, I care enough to repeatedly complain, but out of principle I am avoiding everything WotC until this is rolled back.
Actively recommending to people that they avoid Arena, as it is exploitative.
I've purchased a mastery pass and bundle of every set on MTGA since Eldraine. I won't be purchasing another until a non-rotating format without Alchemy is introduced. An abandonment of presented roadmaps has resulted in a total loss of faith in the management and direction of this game. I will not be spending another dollar until MTGA can prove they can fallow through on promised product roadmaps.
I like the idea of the alchemy format, I don’t like being forced to play with its cards. Let arena have an eternal paper equivalent format please.
Beta player. I’ll stop playing arena and tell everyone else I know to stop if you don’t keep alchemy separate from historic or some eternal format. We want to play magic not some hearthstone rng garbage.
I literally don' open arena since alchemy launch, after years of daily playing. Leave historic alone.
With the loss of Original Historic I've come so close to redownloading Hearthstone. Digital only cards are a fine concept I enjoy some of them, but I thought Historic was where my standard cards were supposed to live untouched/rebalanced...
WoTC. Don't be too greedy. I and many other players love historic - please don't change it. Or you compensate with wildcards for each rebalanced card or you make a non alchemy historic. Out preference is obviously for the last option
Having played around with the notion of Alchemy and how Historic is now altered as a playing format for a couple weeks now, I'm confident in saying that I really, really do not like it and will not be supporting the game financially anymore until either Alchemy is given its own format or Historic is reverted back to having their cards in pre-Alchemy form. I did not invest time and money into digital game pieces that can, and will apparently, be changed on a whim without any compensation.
This plus all the coming sets in '22 and '23 have nailed this coffin shut.
I will never play a card game where the cards can be modified on the fly.
I will never draft or play sealed if I don't have a non-rotating format to use the cards in afterwards
I'd say this product is no longer for me but it's not the same product it was before Alchemy was announced. It's a product I would have never bought into if I knew the way it was going because I knew the money was locked in unlike MTGO or paper.
This single change is so bad it makes me want to quit your game altogether, digital and paper, because it shows that you're happy to completely upend the player experience for nothing beyond some extra bucks. You can argue that's happened in the past but I'd say it was almost always done in good faith - trying to push the game and accidentally making broken cards/mechanics that had a huge impact. I always felt like you tried to fix your mistakes. This is not like that - this is intentional and predatory. There is no good faith effort to make the game better or push the boundaries in a way that makes the game more fun. The only way we are pushing the boundary is in seeing how much the players will take before they revolt. I have been playing this game since Ice Age and been through quite a few changes over the years - I've never felt this way after any of those changes.
I had no issue with new collector's editions and flooding the market with Commander products - more stuff allows people to enjoy the game in more ways and that's a great thing. Introducing new sets that retroactively change old cards and formats makes it so that less people can play the game unless they are completely onboard with everything you do. That will never be me, and I think you may be surprised to find out how few people there are like that.
If you're going to burn your enfranchised players for stuff like this it seems to signal confidence that there are so many new players out there, that you will be able to grow your way out of the attrition that changes like this will produce. Well, I've worked for a lot of growth-based companies and I can tell you this: Growth is great until it stops and nothing grows forever.
I will actively discourage new players from playing Magic in the future. I will recommend a different game. I used to be a borderline Magic evangelist. This sucks. You should really reconsider what you've done here.
I have ben playing MTG since 1991. As a longtime player I do not like the direction wizards is going by modifying already existing cards. Please leave historic as it's own format and do not modify the cards in it. Historic is seen as MTGA's Modern/Legacy format.
Standard is a format I have no longer interest in, Historic was a good compromise to keep playing the card/deck I liked.
I'm not against MTG Arena only virtual card, I think it's a cool addition to let us have new interactions difficult or impossible in paper magic.
Nor I'm against the new Alchemy format has it was supposed to target the Standard format only.
But Historic should not be affected by this last one! I'll have never spend money on Arena in this condition.
At least I've been able to get a refund on my last gems purchase,
and I'm not planning on playing Arena again for has long has Historic will be ruined.
After almost 2 years of playing, I have definitely uninstalled Arena. Congratulations for alchemy and for the clarifications given to the community, excellent work Wizards, as usual!
That's two weeks.
Half a month.
We still haven't received any feedback regarding the Historic changes made and the community concerns after two weeks of voicing our opinions. This behavior is more insulting than the change itself. What is the point of posting here if we never get answers? At least tell us to pound sand and that we have no plans for Pioneer. Because there has been no communication from WOTC, I've halted all cash payments to Arena and I will continue urging other players to do the same.
Nearly 2 weeks, and no rolling back the badness.
Just want to chime in again and say how disappointing it is that WoTC haven't even acknowledged the pretty extreme consensus that alchemy can stay but we need an eternal format so our collections aren't ruined if we don't want to play alchemy
It's payday today.
Guess who isn't getting any of it?
whoever came up with the idea to pollute historic with alchemy is a cringe loser and should be fired, no amount of anything introduced in any set ever will ever fix this or persuade me to give you money ever again until this is rolled back. This was my favorite game, i would have easily dumped 500-1000$ a year into this game if i was confident my cards would stay the way they are printed and i'm sure that goes for allot of people. There was zero chance i was ever going to dump cash into prohibitively expensive irl cards just so they can sit on a shelf and get played with once a year, this was the only thing that worked for me I could afford to build decks that i liked and play whenever i want without having to organize anything but now that's ruined, even if you roll it back how can i trust it will stay that way, its worthless to me otherwise and i've already been burned. Nobody who's actually played magic their whole life wants this garbage, how could you possibly think that or do this to your customers. Make alchemy its own separate thing that has no effect on vanilla magic, it's just obvious. The mastery pass i wasted money on is depleting because i uninstalled because your garbage decision to ruin everything, there was literally no day i didn't grind out as much as i could, i still have withdrawals that do nothing but translate into hate for your betrayal, a hate i have no time for, i'll enjoy better games and give more deserving people my money and . If cards are op then playtest them better or ban them and give us double the wildcards as a show of good faith considering how many other cards we might have crafted to compliment their utility in our decks, and leave online only mechanics in their own format, i'm down to play that format and maybe grow to like it and put money into it but not at the cost of vanilla magic, this game is nothing to me if it doesn't remedy this clear mistake.