Bug with ashaya and unable to scream
Had just played unable to scream on Ashaya removing all abilities. All enemies creatures remained lands and when I used cyclonic rift therefore did not go back to hand. When Ashaya dies the land type on creature is removed so I assume when you remove her abilities it should as well. There is a similar post about someone removing her abilities with another card. I don't know every bit of the rules but it would make sense if she and all other creature lost the land type because its an abilty that she provides right.
Sorry I dont have a picture of the interaction. I conceded after the rift didn't put the creatures back to hand.
BadAtMid#42486
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Rezzahan#77802
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Not a bug. Type changing effects (layer 4) happen before ability granting and losing effects (layer 6). Ashaya is applied before Unable to Scream makes her lose her abilities.
And no, it does not make sense to do this differently. There are many ability granting effects that are based on (sub)type or color(s), hence why effects changing those have to be applied earlier. Making abilities get lost in an even earlier layer would also mean, that only printed abilities are lost, and abilities gained via effects cannot be removed this way. And in reverse, applying ability losing even later than ability granting would mean, that you could not grant abilities after an ability losing effect is created. So ability granting and losing has to happen in the same layer, where time stamps can be used for the order of those effects.