Algorithm Improvement
I'm sure you're getting a lot of complaints about how one-sided your algorithm is not being impartial and often times screwing over players with land draws that should not be happening in a purely random sample - so my complaint can be added to that pile.
But, an idea for changing the algorithm to improve randomization would be having the program assign a number to each card remaining in a deck and pile shuffling the cards into X amount of piles (let's say 6). It can repeat this process Y amount of times then take the middle of the pile and put those cards on top. A better template would be from the card shuffler for poker sets from stores.
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Milkman#92044 commented
How about you make the card draw actually random... stop messing with the core game function you bafoons.
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TresLeches2020#36547 commented
Match Maker Broken for ONE Premier Draft. I am currently ranked Silver 3, that is 5 levels from beginner Bronze 4, these are my last 6 match pairings for ONE Premier Draft and it's exceptionally unfair: vs 1. Diamond, 2. Diamond, 3. Mythic Ranked 1298, 4. Platinum, 5. Diamond, 6. Mythic...Support just sends me the form message of "the algorhithms and match maker have been tested and work perfectly" but clearly there is a major problem. What is the point of a ranking system if I'm at a beginner level and get paired against experts match after match. There is a problem with the system, and I would like someone with a brain to respond to my messages and fix the issue. I have to quit ONE draft because it's extremely unfair to have to play these matches and would like my draft entries refunded until the issue is resolved.
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Panic#40580 commented
Not even Blizzard, RAPING WOMEN, is anywhere as DISGUSTING as this company. How the **** is this even in any way LEGAL?! IF the day ever comes and they will be sentenced to jail for this corrupt, moneygrubbing, soul-less ****, i hope they will get raped in jail as much as they raped every players wallet. Atleast Blizzard TRIES to condemn what they've done.. but noooo,, not this company. "shuffler is working as intended." Yeah.. the intention is to steal money and give no *****.
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GoghCohen#37535 commented
[YOUTUBE LINK BELLOW PROVES THIS TO BE A TRUE STATEMENT]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR0fhvy9LOQ[MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE]
I have a mono white deck. ALL WHITE. 60 cards. I've been playing ranked. I was on Silver tier 1, 1 game left to go to get to gold. EVERY GAME I JOINED, I ONLY GOT 2 MANA. Normally, this isn't an issue for me. I usually draw mana my first pull. NOPE. Played 2 games, same thing happened. I ended up using the mulligan feature. I kid you not, every time I mulligan, I get 2 mana. I mulligan all the way down to only being able to keep 2 cards, and what do you know? 3 mana. So I get pretty mad about this. I ended up putting 30 mana cards in a 60 card deck, the mana ratio is insane. I kid you not, it happened again. Next game, Put 5 more mana. Still the same outcome. It set me back 2 tiers. -
killjoy#56852 commented
Just read it and ask yourself. Am I telling the truth?
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killjoy#56852 commented
Draw mechanics are obviously being manipulated. It is easy to spot because it happens at roughly the same progression point every day AND its sloppy because the algorithm to do it results in laughable card stacking "3 or 4 of the same card on draw". It is further compromised by the mathematically obvious mana stacking. I am not sure what team decided this was a great idea and implemented it but its not. Further. The match making is also being ruined. Now after a number of wins being matched against other winning decks does make sense. However, that is not what is happening. What is happening is that Decks known to beat a given other deck are being fielded. So its not strong v strong its really auto side boarding. To put it simpler you are selecting the winner. This is one of the most complex games in the world. People "like myself" with over 20 years experience with MTG can see right through this ****. You want to monetize tournament play online while blatantly "stacking the decks". Stop it. Nobody is fooled and I for one will not give you a cent for tourney play while you keep up these policies. STOP IT!
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HairlessBeard#46721 commented
Having played MTG for about 28 years. I clearly love it, both physical and the various MTG PC games created throughout the years.
But what I am very annoyed at WoTC having done though, is gamifying MTG Arena. What does that mean? Means they monetised the product by utilising algorithms over the randomising of cards drawn.
So now when you play MTG Arena, the chances of a normal game are about 1 in 8. The rest of the time either you will be land screwed (no land or just constantly draw land) or you can tell that your opponent has been.
It's actually quite appalling conduct to treat your loyal customers of the product in such a way.
Living in a country where Pokies are the highest per capita in the world it is easy to see the tactics used by Wizards of the Coast in MTG Arena. There are tricks, play for a bit and when you can see yourself being screwed (takes about 5 games in a row of no or all land), stop playing for a while ( a few days or week maybe). Then the algorithm kicks in next time you play, and others will then be land screwed and you'll win 5 in a row (and see them flounder with no land or probably a handful of land).
The only other way I can think of is to try to build/play decks designed to make being land screwed by the algorithm hard. But that's very difficult.
SO WoTC, turn it off or turn it down, it is way too high at the moment. And makes playing MTG Arena VERY frustrating.
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Dmack665#71970 commented
this is a joke right your gonna ask if I enjoyed a game after you NERF my deck load my hand with the one color my mana pool dosen't have .... IT ****** SAD I can 50% of the time perdict the draw from my deck THAT SHOULD BE RANDOM DRAW NO QUESTIONS ASKED however no matter how much mana you put in a deck the Algorythm is set to draw mana at 20% no matter what until the deck is so flooded with mana it levaves it no choice .... I ask you where is fair or honor when you run a deck that is 50% mana and no matter what it draws mana at 20% with a good chance that any time you keep a hand with out a color on any deck that has 3 or more you can plan on not seeing that color I mean there are people here that would return to playing the game IF you wiould just Randomize the shuffler and level the playing field .... the CHAMPIONSHIP is a ******* JOKE until you randomize the shuffler...... YES THERE WILL NEVER BE A TRUE CHAMPION TILL YOU LEVEL THE FIELD CAUSE MATHATICS THAT ARE THE BACKBONE OF DECK BUILDING DO NOT MATTER HERE >>>>> you think minecraft or WOW nerfs their platform for the new players NO IT GET IT HOW YOU LIVE
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ravnarok#30389 commented
Dear mtgarena creators,
Nobody cares about any of your tournaments because you wont make it through them unless you have sank a ton of money into arena and they have deemed you worthy enough to progress. otherwise you will face the common shuffler issues of getting 10928390948 lands in a row, or the 1 (or 2) cards that are useless against the deck you are playing against in multitudes. If you manage to not get that issue, theyll either mana ********* to where theres no way of winning, or just put you against some weird deck that never climbs the ladder but its good against your deck so youll face it. and no worries, even if you do your homework and see what most people are bringing to the tournament, youll somehow manage to only face the one deck thats good against you, and multiple times. youll never play the common deck everyones playing. This app has totally ruined magic for me. Grats.
This is posted after facing 3 back to back opponents who played so dumb they couldnt beat a 5 year old with a starter deck, so what does arena do to combat it so they could get their win in? hand me a million lands, back to back to back matches. its getting ridiculous. **** even the youtubers are starting to post it in their videos to show how dumb theyve made it. just wow -
Mahok337#88363 commented
Magic arena vous êtes des tricheurs et des voleurs! Pourquoi : mon deck, plusieurs (environ 5) partie sans terrain bleu alors j’en rajoute un. Les parties d’après plus que des terrains. Bande de voleur et tricheur. Et oui je ne paye pas ton jeu et je vais certainement pas le faire!
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フロスト#26645 commented
ゴミ
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Drewatopia#02932 commented
Anyone else notice that when we get near ranking up you suddenly can't draw lands worth ****. Even after mulligans you start with 2 lands and you won't draw another one. **** these developers. Not even hiding the fact that this game is absolutely rigged.
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Mugatu#62033 commented
I have to agree here, I play a lot of red decks with at most 22 lands and find myself very often drawing 5-6+ lands in my first 12- 15 cards. I also feel that I'm very often running into the exact same answers from opponents on the same turns. An example of this would be when playing against a deck with the Wandering Emperor. I'd say at least 90% of the time when I see one there is a second copy coming down the next turn. I've discussed this with a friend who plays who runs into the same issues. I'd rather have no fixing and have a couple of games of getting land screwed than dealing with what's going on now.
Side note: It would be great if all players got access to the rare dual lands instead of not being able to craft multi-color decks without seriously grinding or dropping a decent amount of cash. You might feel that this would cut into your profits a bit but I'd be more likely to spend money if I didn't feel like you were making every attempt to grab it.
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uareinsignificant#78664 commented
Bug cards are dealt in order. No shuffling. Not random. All black lands and then blue cards or vice versa. All 9f the time. It is becoming ridiculous. How stupid is your programmer?
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Seraph#92197 commented
FIX YOUR ******* GAME!!!! This mana flooding has been happening for months. WHY THE **** WONT YOU FIX THIS?!?
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MessyMitch#00492 commented
GAME CHEATS. YOU CAN TELL THEY PAIR YOU WITH DECKS THAT CAN EASILY BEAT YOURS. USE BOTS SO YOU GET FIRST TURN 20%, OR LESS OF THE TIME! THEY WANT YOUR MONEY AND THIS GAME UTILIZES DECPTIVE TACTICS TO CHEAT YOU! MY SUGGESTION IS TO PLAY FOR FREE AND REPORT BUGS IN YOUR MONEY/DIAMOND SPENT GAME 100% OF THE TIME AND HAVE OTHER ACCOUNTS IF THEY BAN YOUR ACCOUNT. 100% NOT A LEGIT RANDOMIZED GAME. SAD SACK OF GREEDY ACTIVISION COMPANY!
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never3nding#14518 commented
I dont understand if you've set it up so that if it takes too long it ignores rank or what but
you absolutely need to fix matchmaking to be even or I wont spend another dime. i'll just use
gold for everything. People playing straight mythic rare decks that are top tier taking all the gems in every mode isnt fun for anyone else and they dont spend money because they dont have to. -
NIBOSHI#50407 commented
After a match is over, please show me the sequence of cards in my library. If the sequence is truly random in all matches, there should be no problem showing me the sequence at the end of matches.
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Sorin, Solemn Visitor#32476 commented
Each weekend i collect 10000 gold to do a premier draft or something like it. Almost always i get more lands to play then spells. Which results in a terrible gaming experience and 3 losses in a row. Two weekends after eachother with sometimes playing 75% land en 25% spells is a testimony of a broken shuffler. On FNM my results are most of the time top 3. Arena does not even remotely resambles the fun honoust experience of real life. Refund of gold or crystals requested.
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[Deleted User] commented
I am tired of it. I am tire of the cheaters. I am tired of having a 40 percent chance to draw cards and always ending up with two lands on turn 6. I am tired of the fact that you never personally contact me and only send bots. I am tired of the algo that I can predict with 100 certainty who is going to win the game by turn 3. What a waste. The story of Prometheus is a great allegory for this game and its developers.