Algorithm Improvement
I'm sure you're getting a lot of complaints about how one-sided your algorithm is not being impartial and often times screwing over players with land draws that should not be happening in a purely random sample - so my complaint can be added to that pile.
But, an idea for changing the algorithm to improve randomization would be having the program assign a number to each card remaining in a deck and pile shuffling the cards into X amount of piles (let's say 6). It can repeat this process Y amount of times then take the middle of the pile and put those cards on top. A better template would be from the card shuffler for poker sets from stores.
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-DiViK-#42828 commented
6 games in a row cant get past 2 or 3 lands. 3 of those games saw the only 2 legendaries i have in the deck within 10 cards. you can program around this nonsense. 24 lands in a deck and i cant get a 3rd or 4th land within 10 cards? Here's an idea: if a deck has 24 lands autostart them with 3 lands 90% of the time. You can program this or you shouldnt have this job. **** man, Im sick of running into this. Sick and tired of getting frustrated that should be even better than paper because of proper programming than way worse. Get off your ***. Even your suggestion box takes a lot of diligence to navigate. For ***** sake, get a new job.
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northsidememory#55909 commented
?????
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AZ Frost#50843 commented
I had tossed one land in the bind too (in case anyone was counting)
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AZ Frost#50843 commented
21 lands in the deck. given 12 of them on the top 17 cards. This happens way too often.
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Gradius9989#54610 commented
Ive sent multiple emails and they say it works how its designed. I fkn hate these workers and the broken designs they created. Its such a bs reply
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boon#71361 commented
Do your jobs stop having the people do them for you
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boon#71361 commented
Do your jobs
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GotalotaWOOOD#39230 commented
I can predict my matchups based on decks 50/50, come on randomize = no bias, no color, no numbers.
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GotalotaWOOOD#39230 commented
put some more TIME and EFFORT into randomization!!
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GotalotaWOOOD#39230 commented
24 land is so predictable it makes me think about quitting.
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GotalotaWOOOD#39230 commented
I play enough to see the trends. the matchups based on color are there.
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GotalotaWOOOD#39230 commented
take the ******* card description out of the algorithm
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phoenixrises23#08016 commented
for any player that has played in the real world the draw ratios are ridiculous online. 3 lands out of 13, out of 15, out of 18 cards is a ridiculous draw ratio, for 24 lands out of 60 cards, and it happens constantly. When you shuffle in the real world its rare that you would have a 12 or 15% land draw when you have 40% land in the deck. sure it will happen, but come on constantly, and 4 or 5 games in a row in unrealistic. your algorithms need to take in account of how players shuffle in the real world and the tactics used.
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Haystack#90070 commented
Lumovanis#92496 there are so many new players that NEED the benefit of the algorithms to win, they are the ones going first more often than not. It gives them a false sense of accomplishment, and keeps them in the game longer. (Hasbro has doubled down on the fact that they think they make more money off clueless newbie whales while lobbing up veterans as sacrifice, as opposed to providing a good, fair experience for everyone and reaping the long term profits wizards has been taking for years from us, but I digress. Hasbro wants that money now.) The people who have no problems winning without the algorithms are the folks who are constantly getting screwed by it. The worst part is, the noobs who are getting propped up by it, can't tell its even happening and will even straight up deny it meanwhile veterans see it clear as day because we know how Magic has worked for years before arena was ever a thing.
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maimun#30106 commented
Except for it’s not a randomized algorithm they’re promoting cards they want everyone to buy all the new cards and copy paste the latest net deck if you copy paste the latest “championship deck” you will get perfect land draw and curve, make your own deck and watch out… They can’t have someone making their own deck climbing the ladder
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Velgaia#18782 commented
There is absolutely no reason a person with a deck size of 200+ should ever draw more consistently then a player with a deck of 60. this isn't an isolated incident, and the games shuffling is even more atrocious when it comes to lands or multicolor decks of any kind. a player shouldnt have to consistently mulligan 1-3 times just to get a decent hand.
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Haystack#90070 commented
Wow. Where do I start?
Deleted the app for a few weeks. And it felt really good. Then Brothers War dropped. I'm a huge fan of artifact sets so I reinstalled.
What was I met with? The SAME EXACT BS that has caused me and literally every single magic player I k owing to delete this app. BLATANT MANIPULATION.
Yall act like we can't see it and treat us like idiots when we point it out. You have trained the dregs of the internet to gaslight people in your honor. Even Bank of America has written about your demise.
YET YOU STILL THINK MANIPULATION IS WHAT WILL MAKE YOU MONEY.
I've played five games since reinstalling the app. Historic Brawl. All five games, needlethorn drake in the opening hand. All five games, opponent hit perfect curve with perfect interaction and won with a top deck. These types of games happen, if you're lucky, once a year. But in arena, it's every day.
When will you realize that your dedicated players will keep you alive, not the whales who will swim away after you've used them up?
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Don Reynolds commented
Can we get a Vintage-like mode where all cards in MTG Arena are legal, maybe the Vintage restricted list for some balance. Most importantly, NO RIGGING!!! Make the match making, draws, seeks, conjures, etc 100% cryptographically random, NO ALGORITHMS.
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Slenkamure#29014 commented
you need to update or at the very least rebalance the RNG for the entire game. When you play multiple games in a row if you win more than one in a row you suddenly start getting multiple games in a row where you are mana starved (despite deck being 50% lands going entire matches without drawing a single land after initial draw) or mana bloated (going entire games where you get nothing but lands after initial draw) once or two times in a row is understandable but going 4-5 games in a row like this is RNG issue. Although i am loathe to make accusations it sure seems to be intentional balancing of win/loss ratios (ie. win 3 in a row and suddenly next 3 are completely unwinnable due to draw issues)
give us option to reshuffle deck at the start of match before initial draw or you know get a better RNG
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Gradius9989#54610 commented
I hate these idiots. They dont care about the players they are so terrible bc no matter how many times you prove their arena app is rigged and a proven cheating pos they only want ur money. Shuffler sux and matchmaking is rigged to games u will NEVERRRRRR FKN WIN. Wotc u should be sued for unethical and being a bias company who feeds games towards streamers or new players.