Yeah I also hear they think it's funny a part of the community is "stuck" on the shuffler thing.They already admitted to the manipulation via the smoother but love to ignore and censor forums.
I done talking it's almost time to go to Renton and fix this once and for all.
This is not just about the game it's a principle and a line they crossed.
They sold the out bigtime and need to be checked hard.
I heard talk of flaming bags of shi.t shot from catapults to soup can cannons.
We will bring them to their knees in front of the nation for all they have done from Gygax to now.
I'm also encouraging trashing the warehouse in Texas where all the alphas and betas are.

Well, last update bought us indeed a step closer to complete non-sense. A deck which had 55% winrate is now down to 28%. Another, wich had 48% prior to the last update is now down below 20%. And so on. 6 loss in a row, 1 win, 3 losses, 4 losses, and... 1 win. 3 losses... etc. While it was already quite easy to guess before the latest update, I can even predict the course of couple of games in advance now, it's so scripted that it's quite frightening. And talking about wins... I now win usually only to someone who, like me, see what will arrive once the opening hand is set, and concede in the first two turns. I had matches lasting up to 50 minutes, now 3 minutes is a big maximum. Lots of changes within a week. Don't count on me to put a single $ in the online game, it's all going in physical cards, at least, there is still some sport in the IRL game. The online one will definitely never become a major eSport hit, it's to much pay-for-win oriented... It felt quite already the case on the mobile version, while the PC version seemed still decent, but now, MTGA has turned for me into a not even frustrating anymore casual WC game. I'm all with the ones who are feeling the same in this thread. The ones who say "na, you are just loosers, the game is fine and perfectly balanced" are either trolls or pigeons. And both are sad human beings...

I'm writing from my personal experience and reflects my POV only: I wonder how software engineers that work in this company sleep at night? this is what you do with your programming skills? instead of building an app to help humanity, you're building a 100% scripted game by a rigged matchmaker to take advantage of human weaknesses to make them become frustrated enough to spend more money on cards? is that the purpose of your life? I hope Wotc and Hasbro will go bankrupt soon, to whoever is considering playing this game, know that it will just cause you to spend money and have negative feelings constantly as this game is scripted, nothing is random, its sole purpose is to make you spend as much money as possible by any means possible

I'm writing from my personal experience and reflects my POV only: I wonder how software engineers that work in this company sleep at night? this is what you do with your programming skills? instead of building an app to help humanity, you're building a 100% scripted game by a rigged matchmaker to take advantage of human weaknesses to make them become frustrated enough to spend more money on cards? is that the purpose of your life? I hope Wotc and Hasbro will go bankrupt soon, to whoever is considering playing this game, know that it will just cause you to spend money and have negative feelings constantly as this game is scripted, nothing is random, its sole purpose is to make you spend as much money as possible by any means possible

In matchmaking today, I've faced almost nothing except minion of the mighty and hammer time decks. I've watched my friend play on his own account running almost the same deck and he hasn't seen either decks in over 20 games. Out of the last hour I've played, 90% of the decks I've faced are running these two decks. Either that's all people are playing in the play queue in historic and explorer, or I'm being forced matched against these decks. I'm not running decks which have either of these cards, and if I don't run turn 1/2 answers, I can't get a game which can last beyond turn 3.

I've contacted support and they've assured me 'matchmaking is running as intended'. In that case, their intention is to put midrange/control decks up against jank turn 1-2 mulligan to win on turn 2 combos until the player gets so frustrated, they build decks that just counter this strategy.

Of course, the other explanation that I'm being matchmade against them almost exclusively because of a bug or improper implementation isn't possible according to level 1 support agents, who block my request at first contact.

I would include log files, but it won't let me upload a 52mb file.

BTW with that Rule Of 5 stuff doesn't mean all cards in your hand,it's usually 1 or 2 that will pop within every 5 cards and those cards are usually the ones that there is 3-4 copies of.
Along with this predictable method, I get either mostly 2 mana , or 5 mana 75% of the time,or 1 mana,and then rarely 3 -4 mana and I always have to mulligan at least once every game.
Always clumps of dubs and trips and colors usually in contrast to what you can play because special lands clump as well.
And if I do get 3-4 mana it caps and will not give any more mana and just keeps giving sh.it I already have in hand.
Basically the same BS every time any more.No diversity just straight consumer mobile app rigging.
The animations barely work without subtracting from the rest o f the apps functionality and that's apparently all you need to go fishing with.
Soon they'll be advertising for Old Spice as well,maybe even make a card (like with D&D)
Hasholes of the Coast didn't s.crew the pooch,it screwed them.

Please please please fix the shuffling algorithm !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi!
I'm struggling and annoyed of MTG Arena shuffling mechanism.
It's very frequent case when you got 3 the same cards at starting hand or near.
Also it's very frequent that 3 the same cards are at the same place in the deck.
Even 2 the same cards together shall be not so frequent event.
But 3 !!! it's very strange, especially in the starting hand.
See attached screenshots.

The card shuffling "randomization" is absolute bull. Since the release of Brothers War, no matter how many land i put in a deck i always end up with clumps of land 6 to 8 deep. This is ridiculous, as it doesn't seem to be effecting some people, but its completely ruining the game for others.

I have had to scratch together wins for the past few seasons, to the point where i wont even be able to finish the Mastery, which i paid for. Not because my decks aren't good enough to win, but because i keep getting extreme clumps of land during the "randomization" shuffling.

Please do something to fix this issue. I should not be getting 8 land within the first 12 cards in a deck that only has 20 land. It would be one thing if this happened once or twice, but its constant. I have literally commented to others that the game is punishing me.

I have been playing MTG since the early 90s, and MTGA since it came out and this is truly making it hard to continue playing.

Please fix this issue or you are going to lose a life long player really fast.

In a 61 card deck I drew 11 of 22 lands in the first 16 cards. This doesn't break the laws of probability or anything, but it happens every other ******* game. At this point I don't really care what you do with your algorithm. I'm deleting the app. Thanks for making me hate a game I used to love.

You know what, maybe if we all post enough comments on this subject, they can't possibly reduce our voices of dissent enough to keep us out. Keep beating the **** out of this forum. Because we apparently aren't allowed to keep our forum posts. They get lumped together in this piece of **** comment system.
EVERY POST I HAVE EVER MADE ABOUT THE ALGORITHM HAS BEEN REDIRECTED HERE! TO THIS SINGLE POST! Where I learned, from actually reading comments, that wizards is going to sweep us under the rug over and over. Until we make a big enough wave. Don't stop posting.

P. S.
I just spent about an hour and a half reading comments from MANY MANY other concerned players saying the same thing I am. We feel straight up ******* swindled by you *********. However much money you have made on arena, since un-randomizing the shuffler, is practically stolen money. We never got what we paid for.
Nobody likes to net deck. Unless your a neckbearded mouth breather with no ******* life. Your game currently rewards metas and that is NOT ENJOYED BY REAL MAGIC PLAYERS!
How about you get up off your fuzzy *** and change the shuffler to be RAAAAAAANNNNNDOOOOOM! AAASS THEEE GAAAME IS INTEENDEED YOUUU BIIIITCHES!

please grumbling about it.
20 Lans in my deck.but I draw50% or more lands 1of 2 or 3 games.
it's not fair game.

P. S.
I just spent about an hour and a half reading comments from MANY MANY other concerned players saying the same thing I am. We feel straight up ******* swindled by you *********. However much money you have made on arena, since un-randomizing the shuffler, is practically stolen money. We never got what we paid for.
Nobody likes to net deck. Unless your a neckbearded mouth breather with no ******* life. Your game currently rewards metas and that is NOT ENJOYED BY REAL MAGIC PLAYERS!
How about you get up off your fuzzy *** and change the shuffler to be RAAAAAAANNNNNDOOOOOM! AAASS THEEE GAAAME IS INTEENDEED YOUUU BIIIITCHES!

Yeah, hi again Wizards employees. Whoever the **** keeps turning my posts into comments, attached to this less well-written post that holds only one of my points I made, ********. For real. Do you really think, after I have spent hundreds over the years on this game, that I would just go away?
GET RID OF THE MOTHER ******* ALGORITHM! The cards should be RANDOMLY SHUFFLED! I am angry as **** because it tuens out, nobody even wants to buy my account. BECAUSE YOU HAVE MADE THIS OUTLET OF MAGIC SUCK ***! With your hyper-control of outcomes.
If you are a smart person posting in this forum, I urge you to use a deck tracker. I guarantee you that, if you check, you have a 50/50 W/L average. That's not mtg. This is a ****** skirmish version that looks pretty.
Wizards, get the **** over yourself. The nerds will sill play if they aren't babied into their wins. Seriously consider what you have read in all my posts that you attached to this post over and over and over again. Quit sweeping me under the rug.

Hi!
I'm struggling and annoyed of MTG Arena shuffling mechanism.
It's very frequent case when you got 3 the same cards at starting hand or near.
Also it's very frequent that 3 the same cards are at the same place in the deck.
Even 2 the same cards together shall be not so frequent event.
But 3 !!! it's very strange, especially in the starting hand.
See attached screenshots.

The shuffler is ******* broken. Stop working on stupid bs like putting emrakul in the game and fix the **** shuffler you *******

PLEASE!!! Update the shuffeling algorithm. It is so annoying that you always draw a multiple of the same card! I can have 120 cards in a deck, but thanks to some kind of „magic“ i draw all 4 copies of the same card within 2-3 turns. And that happens nearly every game.

I drew 7 lands in a row today and that is not the first time. I hate this game ... plain and simple ... it's just not fun. After playing with real cards in a real social setting with real world probabilities it is obvious to me this game is manipulated and is a bait and switch. If only our legal system didn't favor corporations I would almost be curious about class action so people could get some of their money back. Alas none of it matters since you own nothing and as far as hasbro is concerned that is the way things should be. I would STRONGLY advise anyone wanting to make an investment in this extremely poor representation of MTG to be cautious.

Just play the "color challenge" to see the root dynamics of this jinky shuffle/smoother.
5 card rule hardcore.
It picks your cards and you get dubs of the main mechanic cards.
The homogenized shuffler for your consumer noob needs.
Kinda like 5 yr old soccer where everyone wins.......
Hassholes of the Coast hustling kids with pop culture lures of cheap animations instead of quality game play and a manipulated shuffler and server that selects cards for you,and since this server is dumbed down and cheap it swings from one extremity to another and is continually shuffling unless certain cards are observed or placed and when a cards are drawn it shuffles from 2 - 5 piles at that time (Creatures, Planeswalkers, Instants and sorceries, enchantments and artifacts,and Lands.And within 5 cards you will get any card in your hand (as long as you have at least 2+ copies in deck).Main engine/mechanic cards pop more and all of this is why there is clumps of special lands and the rest of the cards all the time because in any isolated pile drawing dubs is obviously greater for say 15 creatures than the entire deck esp. if you got 4 copies.
RULE OF FIVE