Solutions to combat stalling / roping?
Does WotC actually do anything about players who stall / rope games anymore? Reading the forums, it seems like they cracked down on it once 3 years ago, but no longer take active measures against it.
I suggest adding a rope under the profile tab that gets shorter each time your account is reported for roping, and once your rope runs out, your account is banned. That way people know their are real consequences for their actions, and that WotC takes player conduct seriously.
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TahtsK9#95802 commented
Itt: people acting like banning/suspending people on a Free to Play game actually does anything lmfao.
If your opponent ropes/stalls you while they've "already won", that's what we call a GG and concede, they're not wasting your time, YOU are wasting your time.
If your opponent is roping/stalling because they're babyraging over your deck, learn to tab out and focus on something else.
"But I play on Mobile and I can't tab out :(" - Idk sucks to play on Mobile then
"But I play MTGA on my lunch / on breaks :(" - Don't play ranked if time is such an issue. Do that when you have more time to spare. Otherwise concede and go next, you're not losing anything if you concede other than progress on daily/weekly wins.
"Why are you justifying/defending roping!!" - I'm not
And remember kids, the goal of roping is to make you mad, it seems to clearly work if you're here.
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lunasm#95173 commented
Today I've encountered a Mono-Red-Aggro player who was roping and spamming "Good Game" emote over and over again even though he effectively had won the game.
The lost match I can understand. Some decks are better than others and that's the nature of the game, but this sort of toxic behavior needs to be controlled.
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Docpyro#50507 commented
I will settle for a 5 life penalty every time the rope starts.
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AuthorshipRPG#46917 commented
Please do something to address this! It is so obvious when people are intentionally doing it vs. it is due to disconnect. I've disconnected or had a game client crash, but it often results in me missing a turn and my opponent gaining an advantage of a missed turn before I'm able to reconnect. If someone is waiting out the turn clock with nothing to play... while hovering between different cards on the board... right after you play a big creature or your wincon... and every turn following that they are stalling out when they have had perfect connection all game... it lasts more than one or two turns... it's just poor sportsmanship.
It's slow playing and disrupting the game, especially in ranked or in games where I've paid money to participate (i.e. draft). There needs to be a way to report those players and/or block them so that I do not have to endure that behaviour repeatedly. Perhaps put them in a "ropers queue" where they get matched with other ropers. While we shouldn't punish players for disconnects, as we all know the client crashes often enough, there should be a way to prevent players behaving like this from disrupting others games, especially in a competitive environment.
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jgm104#27401 commented
I've been struggling building a deck recently, must have lost 10 straight matches as I tinkered with it. Finally, I get things to click, am winning a game, and I get roped. It takes the joy away from the game.
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UrmaGurd#84699 commented
We all know this isn't new, and we know it's not a unique problem for MTGA, and we know other games implement player absence solutions. As a developer, I can think of many ways to discourage and even punish roping by working with a number of variables, including user reports, connection status, time roping in single game, repetition of roping instances etc. You can't use just 1 variable to decide if a rope is intentional, it needs logic to combine all of the above with thresholds and tolerances.
But honestly AI / Machine Learning is easily the most appropriate way to do this using the above data. Sure you can code it, but ML would easily determine patterns that are genuine disconnects vs intentional roping. ML solves far more complex and data intensive problems than this with extremely high if not perfect accuracy.
However WotC would need to fix these bugs first:
- Mac OS app freeze (spinning beachball)
- silent disconnects (failure to detect disconnection and show it to the user, so they can restart app)
- fix network stack changes and reconnects (I have never known a game that cannot reconnect after device drops from wifi to mobile data)But seeing as these issues haven't been resolved in the years I've been playing on Mac and mobile, I can't see them prioritising that over revenue-generating expansions.
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Doyleopoyle2020#22267 commented
Honestly, sometimes I'm flattered that they would get so angry that they rage quit, especially when I use hullbreaker horror. But there are sometimes it gets really annoying because it's wasting my time and it's such a petulant little child reaction to losing. Essentially, you're having a hissy fit if you alt tab out or force close the app on your phone. I always- and I mean always - concede when I assuredly am going to lose. Learn to lose with dignity FR. I understand that not EVERY instance of roping is them trolling me. Sometimes life gets in the way, sometimes the app crashes, lose connection... Etc. but the times when it's obvious are easy to spot. I'm not asking you to help me finish my daily quests so I can get more XP and gold, but come on... How petty can some of you people be that force quit intentionally to make us sit through the extra timeout? I never have an issue losing. It is Part of life. And when I win, I understand that no one can always win. I understand that my hidetsugu and kairi deck is repugnant... It's supposed to punish you for killing my stuff and then get stuff from our graveyards for cheap if not free. It's not the greatest deck or anything, but it's pretty strong and a great deal of times my opponent concedes early. I am grateful for those of you players that actually concede when beaten. Kudos on being a well adjusted human being. But to those of you with stinky diaper crybaby tantrums that intentionally rope to troll people.... You all suck not just at MTG arena, but at life. Every time you look in the mirror it must hurt to see such a miserable wretch staring back. Let that sink in and maybe you'll change, who knows?
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sigma_war#79921 commented
WoTC does nothing about it. In fact, if you submit a report, it goes directly to "Solved" status. I, for one, have discontinued to spend any money on digital or paper MTG until the problem has been addressed.
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R0bz#25468 commented
Guess what, still horrible. 87% of matches players roped like this or even worse. On the plus side I did get 6 players who didn't act like this.(41 that did rope)
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R0bz#25468 commented
Still not improving....
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R0bz#25468 commented
Horrible.... Please do something.
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R0bz#25468 commented
Would be nice to not have to deal with this so often...
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R0bz#25468 commented
Again 33 players roping and 4 who are not trolls. Please do something already, all that seems to be happening is all the ones who want to play are being pushed off by trolls with no intention on doing anything but harassing others.
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R0bz#25468 commented
PLEASE make a "block player" option! I am so **** sick of the same person daily roping the **** out the timer from mulligan to the very end. I have done logs and about 70+ screenshots of it for weeks now and not a **** thing happens. Why?
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R0bz#25468 commented
Why can't there just be a block player option? Maybe they will stop acting like this if no one will play them? Or just move on to the next game to troll on. I hate having to take 10+ screenshots and logging every match because staff won't do anything about roping.
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R0bz#25468 commented
Still very bad 38/41 players were seriously stalling, roping timer when it gets to the very last bit. I think it's messed up we have to log and screen shot these players every day and nothing seems to be done since the next few days they show up again and again. You either need to ban them flat out or give them a server just for roping and trolling and make them unable to play anyone not on that server for a min. of 30 days first time so they can get a feel of what it's like dealing with them. 90 days for 2nd time and life for 3rd.
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R0bz#25468 commented
PLEASE do something about "players" abusing tokens to burn out your timer. This player did it so I could not attack. They are well aware of what they are doing. I have been asking over 4 months for something to be done about this!
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R0bz#25468 commented
Another to add to12 minutes+ roping, I have even reported this player before for exactly the same thing. I'm guessing "influencers" are allowed to do whatever they want as long as they get views?
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R0bz#25468 commented
This is getting really bad, I reported 27/33 players today alone! This wasn't a little stall that could be them thinking etc. this was consistent. Every turn, combat and every main they would wait for timer to pop up or just right before. The tokens being used to refill timer and burn opponents isn't as common. I doubt reporting is doing anything since most of these players have been doing this for weeks now.
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R0bz#25468 commented
Waited over 15 minutes for this players turn. They abuse tokens to refill their timer and force opponents timer to burn out. They burned all my extensions to take a extra turn then again so you can't block or respond, but that wasn't enough they decided to keep doing this over 20 minutes before I just quit.