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    NODUGONOKO#49719 commented  · 

    You know what, maybe if we all post enough comments on this subject, they can't possibly reduce our voices of dissent enough to keep us out. Keep beating the **** out of this forum. Because we apparently aren't allowed to keep our forum posts. They get lumped together in this piece of **** comment system.
    EVERY POST I HAVE EVER MADE ABOUT THE ALGORITHM HAS BEEN REDIRECTED HERE! TO THIS SINGLE POST! Where I learned, from actually reading comments, that wizards is going to sweep us under the rug over and over. Until we make a big enough wave. Don't stop posting.

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    P. S.
    I just spent about an hour and a half reading comments from MANY MANY other concerned players saying the same thing I am. We feel straight up ******* swindled by you *********. However much money you have made on arena, since un-randomizing the shuffler, is practically stolen money. We never got what we paid for.
    Nobody likes to net deck. Unless your a neckbearded mouth breather with no ******* life. Your game currently rewards metas and that is NOT ENJOYED BY REAL MAGIC PLAYERS!
    How about you get up off your fuzzy *** and change the shuffler to be RAAAAAAANNNNNDOOOOOM! AAASS THEEE GAAAME IS INTEENDEED YOUUU BIIIITCHES!

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    P. S.
    I just spent about an hour and a half reading comments from MANY MANY other concerned players saying the same thing I am. We feel straight up ******* swindled by you *********. However much money you have made on arena, since un-randomizing the shuffler, is practically stolen money. We never got what we paid for.
    Nobody likes to net deck. Unless your a neckbearded mouth breather with no ******* life. Your game currently rewards metas and that is NOT ENJOYED BY REAL MAGIC PLAYERS!
    How about you get up off your fuzzy *** and change the shuffler to be RAAAAAAANNNNNDOOOOOM! AAASS THEEE GAAAME IS INTEENDEED YOUUU BIIIITCHES!

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    NODUGONOKO#49719 commented  · 

    Yeah, hi again Wizards employees. Whoever the **** keeps turning my posts into comments, attached to this less well-written post that holds only one of my points I made, ********. For real. Do you really think, after I have spent hundreds over the years on this game, that I would just go away?
    GET RID OF THE MOTHER ******* ALGORITHM! The cards should be RANDOMLY SHUFFLED! I am angry as **** because it tuens out, nobody even wants to buy my account. BECAUSE YOU HAVE MADE THIS OUTLET OF MAGIC SUCK ***! With your hyper-control of outcomes.
    If you are a smart person posting in this forum, I urge you to use a deck tracker. I guarantee you that, if you check, you have a 50/50 W/L average. That's not mtg. This is a ****** skirmish version that looks pretty.
    Wizards, get the **** over yourself. The nerds will sill play if they aren't babied into their wins. Seriously consider what you have read in all my posts that you attached to this post over and over and over again. Quit sweeping me under the rug.

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    NODUGONOKO#49719 commented  · 

    I have given legitimate and valid feedback multiple times. Usually about how the game, played through mtga, is unfair in it's very nature. Due to the FACT that cards don't appear from the top in a truly randomized order. And this is the last time I'm going to even try to make a wave about it. So here goes.
    When I last posted in these forums about that specifically, I was privately emailed by a wizards employee. Who ensures me, "The deck shuffler is working exactly as intended."
    Which is already unsettling enough. But then I became so frustrated just trying to enjoy playing magic that I had to post again. And I am too smart to enjoy playing mtga, due to the FACT that I am screwed by the RIGGED ALGORITHM, EVERY LOSS, EVERY SINGLE TIME I WISH TO PLAY!
    The other post I made in this forum was to try to bring attention to the fact that my account was put under some sort of stealth nerf. Every match, since my most opinionated and frankly heated post, has resulted in a loss. Whereas beforehand, I was being limited to winning 50% of the time. And I mean I am losing EVERY GAME unless someone messed up really badly. I was attempting playing the same decks, new decks, and every format. But it didn't matter. I wasn't afforded a SINGLE OPPORTUNITY to win. One time. And I am a very seasoned deck builder and player.
    SO PLEASE READ THIS! I said in my last post how much this pains me, but it's happening. I'm selling my account. Unless nobody has bought it from me before I have this stupid stealth nerf lifted from this account. I am also telling my account purchaser this information about how wizards handles the functions of this game and this particular account. So they KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BUYING! When I initially put money into mtga, it was because I thought I was going to get an outlet to play magic. While I'm stuck on a couch after my stress-induced seizure that broke my spine. But no, it's a synthetic, washed out shadow of an amazing game. Which I have gotten nothing, but more anger and stress, from since i placed my opinions on how the mtga deck shuffler should be handled.
    So please wizards employee that may happen to see this, HELP! HELP YOURSELF! HELP ME! HELP OTHER PLAYERS! FIX THE GAME! Or at least release my account nerf. Please. Or i will be selling my magic card collection on mere principle. You will lose this 20yr player. I mean it.

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    NODUGONOKO#49719 commented  · 

    THIS IS A POST! NOT A COMMENT!

    I would like to point out that my "comment" WAS an actual post. I guess Wizards decided that putting my entire post attached to this other one was a solution to shutting me up and sweeping me under the carpet. My post has nothing to do with "Algorithm Improvement" AT ALL! I firmly submit the idea that Wizards do the HONORABLE thing FOR THEIR FANS and GET RID OF THE ALGORITHM! WE JUST WANT TO PLAY ACTUAL MAGIC!

    By the way, as a LONG TIME (16 years) mtg player, I am extremely angry that this is how my legitimate post was treated. I hoped that, at the very least, the company that created such a glorious and wonderful game would make their player base their priority. This is not what that feels like at all.

    This is exactly why your player retention rate is continuously dropping. I doubt my post was even completely read as soon as the reader realized I am complaining. Do you want to make more money Wizards?! READ THIS POST AND TAKE SOME ADVICE FROM YOUR FANS!

    Here is my issue. I have been playing arena practically since it's drop. It is obvious, probably even to someone who just occasionally plays, that things have changed. For example, as most of us have one, you can use a deck tracker to watch your win/lose ratio for every deck you use. If you were able to compare the overall player data, I guarantee, that you would certainly see that overall player win-loss ratios across the board have reached ever-closer to a flat 50% ratio. For all decks.

    Like I said, as a player, you can see this trend on your own decks if you have been playing long enough. Which has led many of us to explore whatever possible causes brought arena to such a forced win and forced loss saturated play experience. Which brings me to the issue all of this stretches from. THE ALGORITHM.

    Not just the "hand smoothing". Not just the opponent match-ups. Or just the way in which cards are given to you vs how they are given to your opponent. It's all of those aspects of the game mixed into one. If you are an individual who legitimately believes what I'm saying is false, I urge you to do your own research, listen to what the rest of the mtga community has to say, and come back later with a more educated, leveled head.

    So obviously you've gathered I am talking about how the victor of any arena game is almost entirely dependent on this algorithm. Many of us even get the feeling that a game is rigged towards ourselves or our opponents based upon just our first hand. Which seems bonkers right? But think about your own experience playing.

    In ANY match of arena, no matter how many or how few lands you add to your deck, Arena does not give lands to your hand based on the land based on a random order, mixed with the possibility of chance, and the number of lands in your deck. The way it works in real life. The goal of shuffling is to RANDOMIZE YOUR DECK!

    After playing a few games, a fool could tell you, the way Arena gives your lands is based on if the algorithm decides you're supposed to win that game. Making your lands, essential to playing, a tool to keep everyone's decks as close to a 50% win-loss ratio. Which leads me to the next tool arena uses to force you to win or lose.

    Who are you getting matched against? Is it some Joe-Shmoe from a random place with the best internet connection? Nope. Look closely and Arena undeniably TRIES to put you against your opponent based on the very cards in your deck. Which you can experiment with and see for yourself.

    All avid Arena players tweak and fine tune our decks. Most of us are just trying to beat the algorithm itself. (But let's not get into that at the moment.) And you will notice pretty quickly that this is true by changing the amount of removal you have in a deck. Or most commonly, if your deck has the ability to create creatures or not. Which upsets the balance of playing against a healthy variety of opponents.

    This leads to mirror matches happening frequently. If not literally an exact mirror match, you will be likely playing at least the same style. So control vs control or aggro vs aggro. If you aren't experiencing that, which is most of the time, what you're experiencing is way worse. A deck that is always a perfect counter to your own.

    When I drift below the 50% win-loss ratio border, the algorithm will put me against total puffs. Noobs. People who clearly don't know how to build a deck yet. And they will give me a perfect hand. This happens for a while in little spurts between an occasional loss.

    When you drift above 50% the algorithm starts to hand you more opponents with decks like I mentioned earlier. Literally your same style deck, but your opponent gets a waaaay better hand. On top of that, you are also being land flooded or handed cards that can literally get nothing accomplished at the moments arena puts them in your hand.

    This brings me to my last big point on the topic. How the algorithm decides what card to give you off the top whenever you get one.

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    NODUGONOKO#49719 commented  · 

    I would like to point out that my "comment" WAS an actual post. I guess Wizards decided that putting my entire post attached to this other one was a solution to shutting me up and sweeping me under the carpet. My post has nothing to do with "Algorithm Improvement" AT ALL! I firmly submit the idea that Wizards do the HONORABLE thing FOR THEIR FANS and GET RID OF THE ALGORITHM! WE JUST WANT TO PLAY ACTUAL MAGIC!

    By the way, as a LONG TIME (16 years) mtg player, I am extremely angry that this is how my legitimate post was treated. I hoped that, at the very least, the company that created such a glorious and wonderful game would make their player base their priority. This is not what that feels like at all.

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    NODUGONOKO#49719 commented  · 

    Here is my issue. I have been playing arena practically since it's drop. It is obvious, probably even to someone who just occasionally plays, that things have changed. For example, as most of us have one, you can use a deck tracker to watch your win/lose ratio for every deck you use. If you were able to compare the overall player data, I guarantee, that you would certainly see that overall player win-loss ratios across the board have reached ever-closer to a flat 50% ratio. For all decks.

    Like I said, as a player, you can see this trend on your own decks if you have been playing long enough. Which has led many of us to explore whatever possible causes brought arena to such a forced win and forced loss saturated play experience. Which brings me to the issue all of this stretches from. THE ALGORITHM.

    Not just the "hand smoothing". Not just the opponent match-ups. Or just the way in which cards are given to you vs how they are given to your opponent. It's all of those aspects of the game mixed into one. If you are an individual who legitimately believes what I'm saying is false, I urge you to do your own research, listen to what the rest of the mtga community has to say, and come back later with a more educated, leveled head.

    So obviously you've gathered I am talking about how the victor of any arena game is almost entirely dependent on this algorithm. Many of us even get the feeling that a game is rigged towards ourselves or our opponents based upon just our first hand. Which seems bonkers right? But think about your own experience playing.

    In ANY match of arena, no matter how many or how few lands you add to your deck, Arena does not give lands to your hand based on the land based on a random order, mixed with the possibility of chance, and the number of lands in your deck. The way it works in real life. The goal of shuffling is to RANDOMIZE YOUR DECK!

    After playing a few games, a fool could tell you, the way Arena gives your lands is based on if the algorithm decides you're supposed to win that game. Making your lands, essential to playing, a tool to keep everyone's decks as close to a 50% win-loss ratio. Which leads me to the next tool arena uses to force you to win or lose.

    Who are you getting matched against? Is it some Joe-Shmoe from a random place with the best internet connection? Nope. Look closely and Arena undeniably TRIES to put you against your opponent based on the very cards in your deck. Which you can experiment with and see for yourself.

    All avid Arena players tweak and fine tune our decks. Most of us are just trying to beat the algorithm itself. (But let's not get into that at the moment.) And you will notice pretty quickly that this is true by changing the amount of removal you have in a deck. Or most commonly, if your deck has the ability to create creatures or not. Which upsets the balance of playing against a healthy variety of opponents.

    This leads to mirror matches happening frequently. If not literally an exact mirror match, you will be likely playing at least the same style. So control vs control or aggro vs aggro. If you aren't experiencing that, which is most of the time, what you're experiencing is way worse. A deck that is always a perfect counter to your own.

    When I drift below the 50% win-loss ratio border, the algorithm will put me against total puffs. Noobs. People who clearly don't know how to build a deck yet. And they will give me a perfect hand. This happens for a while in little spurts between an occasional loss.

    When you drift above 50% the algorithm starts to hand you more opponents with decks like I mentioned earlier. Literally your same style deck, but your opponent gets a waaaay better hand. On top of that, you are also being land flooded or handed cards that can literally get nothing accomplished at the moments arena puts them in your hand.

    This brings me to my last big point on the topic. How the algorithm decides what card to give you off the top whenever you get one. It is undeniably rigged. Through and through.

    If the algorithm decides you are supposed to lose and you survive the two prior factors, this is the ultimate fail-safe nobody expected. THE CARDS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR LIBRARY ARE NOT EVER ACTUALLY RANDOM! Which ruins the whole game of magic. Absolutely ruins the perfect balance any perfect game has between chance and skill. This is an indisputable fact that I believe only an extreme fan-boy of Wizards or Wizards employee would attempt to deny.

    Here's my Bug/Product suggestion. DITCH THE ALGORITHM! FOR REAL! HAVE EVERY SINGLE CARD WE SEE ENTER OUR HANDS FROM OUR DECKS BE ENTIRELY RANDOM! Magic the Gathering is not the same game without it's quality of chance. In other words, Magic sucks if you can't actually play Magic.

    *Mic drop*

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  3. Stealth Nerffed Account

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    NODUGONOKO#49719 commented  · 

    HILARIOUS! NOT A SINGLE **** GIVEN! No comments, support, reads, or response from Mtg affiliates of any kind on the topic of this post. **** your money hungry idealisms currently driving your company. You just lost another player. I wish I could say that I am even surprised in the slightest. Good luck to anyone who tries anything slightly close to this bold when they make statements wizards considered dissident. You will be blatantly ignored like myself. Unfortunately.

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  4. Cards changing during drafts

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  5. Touch screen not functional after update

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  6. Cant log in

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    I'm having this Issue right now. It's literally the next year. It's February. Why is this happening?

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  7. Non Standard Tutorial Cards In Standard Ranked

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  8. Re: Alchemy, Historic, and My Journey in M:TG so Far

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  9. Alchemy historic

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  10. Please don't mix Alchemy with Historic

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  11. Alchemy

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  12. Keep Alchemy and Historic separated

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  13. Add Alchemy as a separate thing

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  14. Alchemy and historic

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  15. Product Suggestion Leave Historic Alone

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