Algorithm Improvement
I'm sure you're getting a lot of complaints about how one-sided your algorithm is not being impartial and often times screwing over players with land draws that should not be happening in a purely random sample - so my complaint can be added to that pile.
But, an idea for changing the algorithm to improve randomization would be having the program assign a number to each card remaining in a deck and pile shuffling the cards into X amount of piles (let's say 6). It can repeat this process Y amount of times then take the middle of the pile and put those cards on top. A better template would be from the card shuffler for poker sets from stores.
-
Screenshot_20240610-124913.png 1955 KB -
Screenshot_20240610-124925.png 2544 KB -
Screenshot_20240607-112339_Gallery.jpg 431 KB -
Screenshot_20240527-142312.png 1854 KB -
Screenshot_20240527-142521.png 1852 KB -
WHAT THE HELL.jpg 119 KB -
cant-be.jpg 223 KB -
Screen 2.JPG 286 KB -
Screen 1.JPG 181 KB -
BS Lands.png 3906 KB -
IMG_0138.png 7889 KB -
Log20240324_222223.log 10925 KB -
Screenshot (6).png 3846 KB -
Screenshot (5).png 3553 KB -
Screenshot (4).png 3460 KB -
Log20240215_120905.log 43967 KB -
Log20240215_120905.log 43967 KB -
Screenshot_20240131_122750_Magic.jpg 1228 KB -
Screenshot_2024-01-09-11-27-21-65_0d1fccac8b78e37cdc1dccf8a6bd9734.jpg 1426 KB -
Capture.PNG 96 KB -
MTGA 1_8_2024 2_50_36 AM.png 6234 KB -
MTGA 1_8_2024 2_37_18 AM.png 8795 KB -
Log20240108_023749.log 237 KB -
Log20231216_111218.log 39774 KB -
Log20231119_150216.log 135 KB -
image_2023-11-09_153846124.png 1726 KB -
shit shuffler and resource destruction.png 2073 KB -
UTC_Log - 10-29-2023 07.01.59.log 9462 KB -
draw after that.png 861 KB -
this is why your game sucks.png 850 KB -
Log20231019_190627.log 32 KB -
image_2023-10-17_193618112.png 2312 KB -
Screenshot_20231016-073005.png 2222 KB -
Screenshot_20231016-073057.png 2131 KB -
Screenshot_20231016-073041.png 2090 KB -
Screenshot_20231016-073203.png 1081 KB -
Screenshot_20231010-222137.png 2191 KB -
IMG_3827.png 6205 KB -
IMG_3830.jpeg 438 KB -
IMG_3829.jpeg 471 KB -
IMG_3828.jpeg 434 KB -
whats wrong with this picture wizards.png 1205 KB -
turn 7.png 1157 KB -
Log20230921_181919.log 79 KB -
Screenshot 2023-09-21 at 6.18.39 PM.png 8922 KB -
20230910_120436.jpg 0 KB -
20230830_223020.jpg 0 KB -
20230830_221449.jpg 0 KB -
20230830_221305.jpg 0 KB -
20230830_220515.jpg 0 KB -
20230830_145340.jpg 0 KB -
20230829_143404.jpg 0 KB -
20230829_143305[1].jpg 5198 KB -
image_2023-09-07_212539628.png 1416 KB -
MTGA2.PNG 2873 KB -
MTGA.PNG 4591 KB -
bullshit algorithm.png 1302 KB -
Second mull.png 1342 KB -
3rd mull.png 1184 KB -
5th game like this and i have optimal lands.png 1040 KB -
draw.PNG 134 KB -
fix your fucking game.png 2781 KB -
fix your game already.png 1391 KB -
IMG_2120.png 8684 KB -
bullshit mulligan rules.png 900 KB -
tell me your algo sucks.png 854 KB -
1692045296548-1.JPEG 170 KB -
Screenshot_20230812_094952_Magic.jpg 1210 KB -
Screenshot_20230810_222931_Magic.jpg 1281 KB -
and this.png 1428 KB -
cancer.png 989 KB -
explain this.png 1153 KB -
explain this wizardtards.png 882 KB -
bullshit.png 1898 KB -
Cancer2.png 1860 KB -
cancer.png 1419 KB -
IMG_0633.png 8749 KB -
IMG_0632.png 7489 KB -
IMG_0631.png 7524 KB -
fix your dumb game.png 2469 KB -
fix your shuffler.png 528 KB -
Log20230715_082937.log 11211 KB -
3BA76B44-6F49-456A-9E8E-6A156825FA58.png 8450 KB -
18DF26FC-C31C-4D94-8DC7-D0E71F598D59.png 8060 KB -
5F434AB9-5892-4A05-AF8E-6D514EC3EBBA.png 8084 KB -
Log20230625_154123.log 55 KB -
IMG_0150.png 5061 KB -
IMG_0148.png 4829 KB -
IMG_0149.png 1869 KB -
Matchmaking not working in Brawl6.jpg 668 KB -
Matchmaking not working in Brawl5.jpg 598 KB -
Matchmaking not working in Brawl4.jpg 552 KB -
Matchmaking not working in Brawl3.jpg 596 KB -
Matchmaking not working in Brawl2.jpg 565 KB -
Matchmaking not working in Brawl1.jpg 654 KB -
Matchmaking not working in Brawl9.jpg 557 KB -
Matchmaking not working in Brawl8.jpg 605 KB -
Matchmaking not working in Brawl7.jpg 527 KB -
21機会で土地2枚(土地割合28/80).png 1712 KB -
Log20230415_203925.log 390 KB -
UTC_Log - 04-09-2023 20.42.33.log 40817 KB -
2.jpg 1418 KB -
3.jpg 1355 KB -
5.jpg 1511 KB -
4.jpg 1316 KB -
1.jpg 1302 KB -
Log20230405_151758.log 24104 KB -
2.jpg 1418 KB -
4.jpg 1316 KB -
3.jpg 1355 KB -
5.jpg 1511 KB -
1.jpg 1302 KB -
Log20230320_064436.log 25029 KB -
D772DA3B-B7C2-44A6-92F3-3A9B8E0E622C.png 7090 KB -
Log20230312_111055.log 53 KB -
C5639E2A-87DF-43E0-BF68-86266D422C16.png 7776 KB -
Log20230308_145416.log 224 KB -
Log20230308_145206.log 223 KB -
Log20230308_145125.log 223 KB -
Log20230308_145041.log 223 KB -
Log20230308_150641.log 269 KB -
Log20230306_204335.log 93 KB -
Log20230306_204335.log 93 KB -
Log20230218_082637.log 11114 KB -
error arena.jpg 631 KB -
Log20230214_210324.log 128 KB -
Log20230213_182535.log 125 KB -
IMG_0027.jpg 1013 KB -
IMG_0029.jpg 925 KB -
IMG_0016.jpg 885 KB -
Screenshot 2023-01-30 at 1.38.42 PM.png 3546 KB -
Log20230115_233637.log 118 KB -
Log20221230_163502.log 22 KB -
Schermata 2022-12-18 alle 11.54.36.png 9894 KB -
Log20221218_115607.log 264 KB -
Log20221218_115553.log 264 KB -
Log20221217_143052.log 43 KB -
log.log 20235 KB -
Screen Shot 2022-12-09 at 20.49.05.png 6034 KB -
Screen Shot 2022-12-09 at 20.27.43.png 6282 KB -
Hasbro-Executive.png 484 KB -
Log20221129_115210.log 11511 KB -
Screenshot (61).png 2616 KB -
Log20221116_150821.log 222 KB -
Log20221012_103812.log 37 KB -
Log20221013_162401.log 8 KB -
Log20221011_185937.log 23145 KB -
Log20221005_201039.log 6005 KB -
Screenshot 2022-09-20 010530.jpg 11 KB -
Log20220904_144214.log 2490 KB -
Log20220823_113059.log 38 KB -
Log20220805_202829.log 21 KB -
bullshit.png 3229 KB -
bullshit2.0.jpg 41 KB -
Screenshot_2022-07-18-07-34-18-91_0d1fccac8b78e37cdc1dccf8a6bd9734.jpg 1427 KB -
Screenshot_2022-07-18-07-31-07-65_0d1fccac8b78e37cdc1dccf8a6bd9734.jpg 1379 KB -
Screenshot_2022-07-18-07-54-40-52_0d1fccac8b78e37cdc1dccf8a6bd9734.jpg 1379 KB -
Screenshot (3).png 4304 KB -
Screenshot (4).png 4193 KB -
Screenshot (2).png 5061 KB -
MTGA 27_06_2022 06_51_49 a. m..png 2120 KB -
Screenshot 2022-06-06 234559.png 356 KB -
Untitled drawing (1).png 1140 KB -
Untitled drawing (2).jpg 44 KB -
Log20220527_091110.log 14819 KB -
Log20220525_095310.log 12675 KB -
Thank you Wizards!.jpg 552 KB -
2 lands in 17 cards.jpg 527 KB -
Thank you Wizards!.jpg 552 KB -
2 lands in 17 cards.jpg 527 KB -
shufller is fine 5.jpg 527 KB -
shufller is fine 3, 3 lands in 16 cards.jpg 510 KB -
shufller is fine 2.jpg 473 KB -
shufller is fine 3, 3 lands in 15 cards.jpg 503 KB -
shufller is fine.jpg 440 KB -
shufller is fine 4.jpg 530 KB -
Screenshot_20220505-154301_Magic.jpg 1444 KB -
Screenshot_20220504-144021_Magic.jpg 1551 KB -
Screenshot_20220504-144033_Magic.jpg 1360 KB -
Log20220319_083435.log 62 KB -
Pairing Algorithm 01.png 4582 KB -
Pairing Algorithm 02.png 3411 KB -
Matchmaking.jpg 45 KB -
Log20220106_190437.log 72 KB -
ShareX_2021-11-24-06-07-23-574.png 40 KB -
Log20211002_231206.log 33 KB -
Screenshot_20210930-123116_Magic.jpg 1614 KB -
Log20210928_124854.log 121 KB -
Log20210801_112305.log 70 KB -
2021-04-01 (3).png 2328 KB -
quick_draft_gold.png 1868 KB -
quick_draft_plat.png 1842 KB -
Log20201228_223510.log 621 KB -
Log20201228_221503.log 587 KB -
UTC_Log - 08-14-2020 17.53.18.log 179 KB -
opponent-goes-first-1.png 2729 KB -
Log20200509_141030.log 3962 KB -
Log20200319_195414.log 532 KB

-
NVversus#84211 commented
Getting a good hand is like pulling teeth in this game.
I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've gone through mulligans to get a better starting hand just to end up with one type of mana and 5 cards of the opposite mana color in a two color deck.
I have at least one match per day where I'll draw nothing but mana (mana clumps in a digital card game) 5+ turns in a row. Decks that I've made it pretty far with in Ranked are completely hindered by a bad first hand.
This card game is older than my parents and it still hasn't figured out a meaningful way of dealing with poor mana distribution. It feels like whatever department is assigned to iterating on the mechanics is completely empty and the employees that are listed in said department don't actually exist. They're just on paper to make the players feel better. It's baffling that, even on my cell phone or PC, an algorithm can't properly sort my cards evenly. You either play mono-color decks or just lose 50% of your games to bad draws. I literally concede 50% of my games to bad first draws and mulligans that seem impossibly poor.
Here's a great idea: Give me two piles. One for all the cards that do something and another pile for my mana. It'll force the player to make the strategic decision whether to draw more cash to spend on cards or skip mana for a meaningful draw.
I play Alchemy primarily, so one bad draw or three consecutive turns of drawing absolutely nothing in such a fast-paced format absolutely ruins the experience and makes me utterly despise the game and everyone who likes it. Just let me decide if I need to draw mana and forgo a valuable draw or if I need more firepower next turn. Try it out as a feature in Alchemy only. I don't care. Just try this solution or, frankly, any meaningful solution to mana clumps. Please. For the love of Christ. Do. Anything.
P.S. I stopped writing this, played one game and immediately got a mana clump. Right after complaining. Thanks.
-
kazu masu#85226 commented
ミシック相手ですら、
手札がよるのは、うんざり。22/64が土地のデッキで、
8/12が土地。わざとだろ。
-
akaialucard#47854 commented
try to make a causal format that has the deck sizes on par like one 60 card deck max then a 61 to 100 card deck min max the same for 200 and 250 so if you make a fun deck it is matchup against similar deck and not a 60 card burn deck vs a 250 combo deck and you just sit there and are a target for them
-
KingRaider76#90048 commented
I'm coming across an issue that has happened with some frequency. If I share cards with my opponent ,meaning that both players have one or more cards that each player has in their deck, I will not pull those cards during the match. I am submitting two screenshots the first is the game table, the second is the list of lands in the deck I used in that match. I have seven cards in my hand with white mana and I have 8 plains and 8 other combo lands with white mana. My opponent white mana only. Yes I lost that match but it happens way too often that my hand lacks what my opponent has in theirs.
-
soad#89768 commented
boa tarde! parem de manipular o jogo. quando eu ganho mais de 3 partidas o jogo fica zicando os terrenos ( nao vem terrenos) voces da wizards tem que rever esse problema de travarem o nosso jogo. deixem o jogo fluir ok
-
Gradius9989#54610 commented
I absolutely **** HATE CHEATERS AND ALWAYS BEING MATCHED AGAINST ABSOLUTE no chance of winning decks. Wotc ur **** terrible corrupted company that doesnt fix mtg arena matchmaking or anythijg. I hope someone sues u or locana whips ur ***** ***** into bankruptcy. **** hate you all cheaters and havkers always giving best products to streamers and tubers. **** off
(Edited by admin) -
-DiViK-#42828 commented
25 lands in a deck. Can't get the 4th land by 12 cards 9 of past ten games.
SetLands ratio (25/60): .4166666667 (.4) for simplicity
IF 3 lands out of 9(.33) cards is less than .4 THEN draw land.
IF 5 lands out of 9 cards(.55) cards is greater than .4 THEN draw a nonland.Simple ******* basic (learn within 2 weeks of first class of programming) is better than the donkey **** your paid programmers come up with.
YOU CAN LITERALLY PROGRAM THIS THING TO HAVE AWESOME GAMES AFTER AWESOME GAMES BECAUSE NOONE GETS LAND****.
Instead its, oh, you have 4 losses, in a row, time to have a perfect hand while your opponent gets ******. That isnt fun for anyone.
I'll build a **** deck right now, literal ****, and it will win its first 5 out of 6 games because you want new decks from possibly new players to keep playing... You are not promoting the game, you're ******* off regulars with reasonable decks forcing landfucks. That kind of horse **** is impeding real growth and progress.
-
MagoPowa#41837 commented
You might say "I'm sorry to ear that you have a bad game today bla bla bla". I'd say, fix your Fxxxxxg RNG. i literally did 3 draft today that i bought with gems, and it was like scripted. Every signle game i get mana ***** because, you know IT'S MAGIC. But ffs, in these 3 draft i didn't win any single game, and i'm not a ****** bronze trash player. Do us a favor since we pay to play, FIX YOUR ****** RNG which is rigged as ****
-
ortegamer#60161 commented
I should add I run a standard 60 card deck with 26 land cards in it
Once I get going on ranked I get 3-4 games in a row without any land cards in my draws
I get 3 in hand, then for 8 turns straight no land cards drawn and I am forced to play the match with 3 lands
This is clearly rigged, I don't mind losing to my opponent but I do mind losing to rng rigged to MAKE me lose.
-
ortegamer#60161 commented
Can you please remove the feature that clearly stops me from drawing land cards when I am in a easily winnable position, I can legitimately predict when it is going to happen.
This isn't fun, I run 26 land cards there is ZERO MATHIMATICAL reasoning I shouldn't draw one land card in 8 turns, FOUR MATCHES IN A ROW!!!!!
FIX THIS CLEARLY RIGGED ****
-
いんぱち#37346 commented
私はMTGアリーナのAIは、
「おっ、こいつ連勝してきたな…土地事故らせたろ!」
「土地事故しすぎもマンネリやし土地だけ引かせまくったろ!」
「こいつのデッキはこの戦法か…よし、ガンメタのこいつ相手にしたろ!」
みたいな畜生だと認識している。上記のツイートがX(旧Twitter)で流れていました。貴社が提供している「マジック・ザ・ギャザリングアリーナ」では、ユーザーに意図的に不利になる仕組みが導入されているのでしょうか?
もしそうだとしたらなら、ユーザーに対しての冒涜や不義理を実施しているのと同じです。速やかに改善を要求します。
また、シャッフル機能やマッチングなども一時的にこちらに有利になることをして解消した気にさせることは根本的な解決とは言えませんので、そこは念頭に置いてください。
※一時的にこちらに有利になること
例
有利な相手とだけマッチングさせる
相手を意図的に事故らせる -
Ron#93920 commented
I like how tons of other people are saying how rigged this game is for f2p players vs p2w players and its sadly ****** true how greedy wizards is. I tested it out for myself because i didnt believe it at first. You have WAY less of a chance to pull the lands you need at start vs if you are a buyer in the game the draws are normal. It will give opposite lands from the lands you actually need. I even made a deck with 5 islands and 15 swamps and it would start me out with things like 3 islands and no swamps almost 100% of the time. ******* pathetic company. Your game is going to die once other tcg comes and people realise how sad of a company you are. For example, Flesh and Blood and Lorcana. Piece of **** wizards. No wonder you guys never gain traction and your collectors for your pity attempt of making this game more of a collectors trading card then an actual ****** game because of greed.
-
Bladest3r#14322 commented
Something is wrong with the shuffle algorithm, it's not truly random, I don't know how to explain it other than when I'm playing historic brawl 85 out of 100 games I have a bad mana start doesn't really matter what deck I'm using at best I only get two maybe three mana out of five turns somehow this needs to be adjusted correctly understandable bad hands happen periodically but they shouldn't be so often
-
tatters#15828 commented
I noticed this a few months ago. That extremely low probability draws sequence occur far too frequently to be organic.
What I just realized now is that it is, must be, profit related. That's WoTC only motivation here.
I'm close to the gems required to get mastery without paying a cent. So I build up coin slowly to enter the premier 10,000 coin draft. Win the first game easily, next three in a row I get absolutely absurd land draw rates. at or on pace for 11 then 12 then 12 lands of 16 after drawing only 20/40 cards.
Best guess is they dial up the bad draw when leaving it to chance could jeopardize profit according to their algorithms. And/or do it according to your play patterns to try to get you to keep playing.
-
KeiTrains#93636 commented
Playing in standard, every match is either all lands or no lands. When I have 23 lands in my 60 card deck, have 7 on table, and then 5 more lands in a row, there are some real statistical issues. Add in that the next match, I'll draw no lands outside of my starting hand for another 6-8 turns....
There's plenty of talk and "proof" seen out there about the shuffler giving some people advantages, as silly as it sounds, it's more believable the more I play and see how the game is doing something.
-
Allanon#06978 commented
I'm so tired of always playing decks that have already made it to mythic at least every other opponent. makes it unfun to play. also your draw algorithm is suspect.
-
Istvan's Son#57612 commented
I just played three different angel decks in a row. Your algorithm set me up against three decks in a row that had "destroy all creatures." That's your idea of how to defeat angel decks? That's unacceptable. Give us RANDOM opponents!
-
kazu masu#85226 commented
デッキの構成割合を完全無視で、
マッチを楽しめましたかと聞いてくるが、
わかっていて
異様な工作をしていることが不快。かなりパターンがきまっている(少しの誤差で、必要なカードを寄せている)様子。
-
kazu masu#85226 commented
22/68 が土地のデッキだが、
また、3回目まで(7,6,5枚の手札で)土地0が発生した。
そんなにそれが起こる可能性が高いか。 -
kazu masu#85226 commented
とりあえず10回ランク戦3セットマッチをした結果、
土地が22/67のデッキだが、
初手が土地1枚以下だったケースが
8/24
1/3の確率で土地が1枚以下だった。
結構な違和感を感じている。
途中6/7が土地
最初の3回の手札で土地0
だったときもあるが。