Algorithm Improvement
I'm sure you're getting a lot of complaints about how one-sided your algorithm is not being impartial and often times screwing over players with land draws that should not be happening in a purely random sample - so my complaint can be added to that pile.
But, an idea for changing the algorithm to improve randomization would be having the program assign a number to each card remaining in a deck and pile shuffling the cards into X amount of piles (let's say 6). It can repeat this process Y amount of times then take the middle of the pile and put those cards on top. A better template would be from the card shuffler for poker sets from stores.
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Jericho#91698 commented
Already posting about it but posting again! Its crazy! I just had a game where I did not draw a land in 8 turns! 60 card deck 24 lands. It needs to be fixed. At least acknowledge theres a problem.
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MysticSquid#48745 commented
Are you guys "modifying " win rates? Ever since hand smoothing came in I have noticed a very alarming trend. Everytime I get 2 wins , the shuffler starves me for land and fills my hand with the biggest cmc cards in my deck. I would say it's just a bad game but it happens almost everytime I hit 2 wins in a row. I know match making is supposed to place you against decks that counter yours when you start winning a lot but most of my decks are nothing like the meta decks. And the odds of a hand being dealt like that are well over 100, 000 to 1 so happening almost every day is a little ridiculous as my deck has way more land then it should and the average cmc is 2-3 , so getting mana starved and ending up with the only 5 cards in my deck that are 5+ in an 80 card deck is pretty far fetched. And the other thing is are you going to offer a format for those of us who do not want hand smoothing but don't really have the time to play Bo3, or are we just supposed to move on because you can't/won't provide us with something ?
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dan#41783 commented
Fix the shuffler
12 losses in a row to getting colour screwed mana screwed or flooded is a joke
While my opponents have perfect draws so are the games predetermined
This needs sorting as paper magic which I play competitively is nothing like this when really it should be the perfect mirror and good for testing whereas right now it's a joke and not worth the time and money -
kazu masu#85226 commented
マッチを楽しめましたか?
ときかれても、
とても唱えにくいことへの忍耐の方が90%以上勝り、
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Jericho#91698 commented
WotC, you need to work on your randomizer. There are literally statisical impossibilities happening with your shuffling. Consistent mana flooding or mana ***** or drawing all 4 copies of a card in a opening hand. Nearly statisically impossible.
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kazu masu#85226 commented
唱えにくい状態に変わりがない。
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kazu masu#85226 commented
とても唱えにくい。
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Prismfalcon#90966 commented
I think that it also has something to do with the "did you have fun" that you are occasionally asked about at the end of the game. I've started to suspect that it serves several purposes, most important in this conversation being: "You were just exposed to certain potentially OP combo types that your opponent was running. Tell me how you feel. And remember, this is for posterity, so please be honest."
Basically I was running decks with a lot of life gain and I started going up against mill far too frequently. After I saw an opponent use Gaea's Blessing, I spent a wild on one copy and added it to 90% of my decks, including ones that had no way to cast it. The result? I no longer encounter mill. I have only had the chance to use it once and it resulted in my opponent instant quitting. I'm sure that he was given the "did you have fun" talk, told the algorithm that he didn't and now he will almost never go up against any Gaea's Blessing decks unless it has decided that he has hit some kind of magic glass ceiling.
I think that one of the features of the stilted matchmaking is too keep people rage quitting the entire game down to a minimum. It's the other side of the "spend money on upgrades" coin. If people give up on Arena then they spend their money elsewhere.
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Kochis1818#88443 commented
Seems like this company doesnt care about customer feedback. Wtf is this shuffling/ card draw. Are you all kidding?
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Yorg#72820 commented
The opponent goes first 90% wtf!!
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dennisrv#98152 commented
not random at all , you either get a free win or a free loss and its dictated by how much money you spend on a game that is supposedly free to play , how convenient having online magic rigged so that you have to play paper magic not to get 10+ lands in 15 cards or 3 lands in 15 with the same deck and the same amount of lands on it, 80% of the games are either ***** or flood for either player how is this math or shuffler working ? and why this cant be reproduced in paper magic if the game is supposed to be the reproduction of it? not fun at all to play rigged matches one after the other win or loss
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FireSnake#98781 commented
To elaborate on the obvious frustration, the shuffle algorithm has been a problem for the entirety of mtga's existance and it's been reported as a problem for the entirety of it's existance. The sheer unwillingness to fix a problem with one if not THE most fundamental system of a TCG is unforgivable.
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FireSnake#98781 commented
Everyone playing the game knows that the shuffling algorithm is fundamentally flawed. And i don't know how exactly it currently works thus i can't really state precise sggestions on how to fix it but fact of the matter is that i lose a disproportional number of games to that piece of **** algorithm. I kept track over the recent few days and it was ~9/10 games that were lost to mana flooding or mana ***** and about 7/10 wins were because the opponent seemed to have the same issue. So in most games my ability to play the game isn't even tested. there's always luck involved in TCG's but that is fcking ********. There's 2 options, either make the algorithm true random, which does not represent the real shuffling but is fair. Or figure out a better way to skew the odds compared to whatever you are doin right now. Moreover it is plain as day that the odds for certain cards are being skewed considering the lack of mulligans certain archtypes need for a perfect opener which can't be justified by statistics, in other words you are clearly, statisticall undeniably promoting certain archtypes and demoting others, stop with the ********. I don't give a rats *** what you think people want to play, you're wrong. You have no idea about deckbuiilding and why we build stuff the way we do that is shown time and time again with the mental jmisssteps of R&D, just give us fun cards and an unbiased shuffling and let us do the work.
In other words true random shuffling or do a thorough analyisis of how a welll shuffeled deck looks like after a de-sorting pile shuffling and a bit of normal shuffling and being cut, aka they way we start of an in person tournament.
As it stands i will definitely never pay money again for a WotC product, not in person either, i'm sick and tired of getting ********* the *** by ****** gamedevs
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Kochis1818#88443 commented
Yea im also just about done with this game, i make a deck that gets my to mid diamond but all of a sudden i cant draw any cards I need, losing to decks that shouldnt be a problem, no mana or all mana. Its ridiculous... and ive bought the mastery pass which besides being a waste of money doesnt change my win rate(except seemingly negatively) Also i dont understand how i can have a deck that wins regularly in diamond then after the season i used the same deck in gold and get destroyed 10 times in a row. Im not soending anymore money until something improves.
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kazu masu#85226 commented
初手で4枚かぶった。
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ChardeeMacDenis#27551 commented
If I play a green deck I see more green decks… if I play something with red, then it’s nothing but red decks. It is not random, it’s color based.
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ChardeeMacDenis#27551 commented
There needs to be a better shuffling system. I’m table top games after a match and cards get stacked I would simply 6 way shuffle to fix. In matches here I do get good hands and games at times but I also have many games where i get all 3/4 of a certain card, no land, all land, etc. This happens a lot more often than it ever would on tabletop. It takes away from the experience and the testing of a deck. If I can get a properly shuffled deck I can’t know how well the deck will play in real time. Please work on this.
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MESSIAH333#03206 commented
You can kiss my ***. All I came across in my event was people almost on Diamond tier. You're not getting another single ******* dollar from me you worthless *****. Kiss my $30 a week goodbye, I'm certain the same situation has happened to thousands of people leaving because of your no balance system bs, all to save you a few gems ROFL.
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Gradius9989#54610 commented
These ***** rig their bs game so u lose every fkn time ur about to win its so bad ive reported them to the better business bureau for unfair business practices and for allowing cheating and gaming that is not random matchmaking but an algorithm that rigs you against opponents who automatically are better then you. Fk you wotc ur trash and ur a biased company
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G8oraidM8#26120 commented
This really might be more of a complaint over ****** deals. But I don't think that I'm playing real people in Draft, nor do I think that my decks are being actually dealt to me properly. I don't spend money on arena very often, especially to buy coins to get into draft. I get to play maybe two drafts a month saving up my coins to 10,000. The past three drafts that I've been in I have gone 1/9. I have not actually played magic when I play Premiere draft, because my opponents deck is either suspiciously good for a draft deck, or I get absolutely mana hosed or just dealt absolute unplayable garbage. Really puts me off from playing draft, saving up 10000 just to get rinsed in 10 minutes. Its not like I'm bad at limited formats either, my decks look good and promising I just never get dealt anything. I'm mythic in constructed and draft in real life every weekend, I don't think my decks are this terrible online.