Sparky stuck in "Hmmm."-ing out turn - Need a way to force Sparky's play
Bug: As of 9/7/23 Sparky is stuck in "Hmmm."-ing on their turn to play. Is Sparky teaching roping as a valid strategy now?
Situation: Sparky has any number of cards or even no cards in hand. It is Sparky's first main phase. I am in a winning position just playing cards to try to get to test a new card in my 100-card singleton deck. Sparky Hmmms for ~ 17 minutes, then I get the victory screen. Sparky doesn't even say "You got me!", such a sore loser! This happened today against Sparky's Blue, Black, Red, White, and Green decks.
The reason this is bad:
- Roping is bad enough vs. humans. It is no fun at all vs. Sparky.
- Getting a Time Out victory when testing a new card in my deck is not good. I may not even draw the card before this Analysis Paralysis state kicks in.
- The current timer is way too long to wait to have a game simply end.
- The only way to end the match is to drain my device's battery for over 15 minutes or to concede the match. Yuck.
Solution: We need a way to force Sparky's play.
Ideas:
- Set Sparky's turn timer to 15 seconds: Once time is used up "thinking" a play or pass decision is enacted
- If the player emotes "Your go" a number of times (maybe 3?) before Sparky has played, a play or pass decision is enacted
- Fix the code that has Sparky getting stuck in the first place.
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Darthrc#87184
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Back to back to back to back (yes 4!) lockups against Sparky. Before giving up I noticed a MASSIVE frame rate dip to unplayable levels while Sparky "Hmm"ed out. I had a hard time even bringing the menu up to forfeit because of the interface lag.
This is getting worse. Somewhere in Sparky's code is a bug causing her to think in an infinite loop. Find it, fix it, please, Wizards.
I'm SURE most people I'm this thread would appreciate a little acknowledgement of this damnable issue. Let us know you know, Wizards.
I wish I could find who to write a letter or email to in order to actually get some service in this platform, or better yet hold these jokers accountable. Every one of you WizardsMS staff seem to just hide behind pre-written messages to appease the ignorant masses. So many issues on this forum go unresolved and unacknowledged!
We never know what issues you are even aware of! How does the CEO even allow this to happen. You are leaving your customers in the dark about critical, gamebreaking issues most of the time. So sick of the lack of quality service here. -
Allirog#15154
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Hello @Abraxxas80#19836, @VikingNinja47#92568,
Sorry to break it to you, this is not a bug: it is done on purpose.
After the last game update Sparky also stops responding when the player attacks. As such, I guess it's easier to hide this specific design as a bug.
Playing against the bot does not help this "pay to win" game earn money since the players are less likely to need powerful cards (hence lees need to invest money to buy better/new cards) nor the bot cares when the players brag about their new flashy cosmetics...
I recommend to everyone to use the default sleeves, one of the default avatars, remove any card style and not play the 3rd MWM game awarding a cosmetic in order to send the clear message that cosmetics improvement should not be the top priority nor detrimental to game's enjoyability or playability then maybe consider using the cosmetics again when the card search engine will allow the search "by artist" to start giving proper credit to the artists for their wonderful work.
@VikingNinja47#92568: even Magic Duels has a better AI design, don't know if it's still available on Steam/iOS but that's not surprising giving that Sparky get improved at playing bad with nearly every game update. Otherwise I highly recommend having a look at the community made MTG Forge: there are lots of decks, some are even machine learning improved and I guarantee one could have a hard time beating those. There are even some of the Possibility Storm's puzzles that were featured on ChannelFireball.com !
Kind regards
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VikingNinja47#92568
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Sparky is poorly made, MTG'S Japanese branch off called Duel Masters has a much better bot to platy against in their digital game platform tbh. Their bot has many more decks that your can actually choose from which the bot will use.
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Abraxxas80#19836
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They are just ignoring this bug, and after months of waiting it starts to annoying me very much! Actually it gets even worst now, before was happening just when sparky had to attack me but now happens even when i want to attack.... wtf?
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Abraxxas80#19836
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Hello Wizards, don´t you think is about time to fix the bot? I think it is, and I also think we've been very patient about it.
Don´t abuse of your community patience it´s not nice, especially when you are not a free to play player and you expect something in return. Have a great day!P.s. Mmmh........Mmmh.......Mmmh....Mmmh
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Tinion#95039
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During a game with sparky, sparky gets frozen and only hm's around.
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Trumanfan#18849
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When playing the bot (Sparky), when Sparky is about to lose, it gets stuck in an endless loop of " Hmmm."
This happens way too often and if you let it keep doing the "Hmmm." for the next 20 minutes, eventually Arena will crash.This is reproducible on both Windows 10 Pro, version 10.0.19045, and on IpadOS version 17.1
This is happening so often now, that it is not worth playing arena anymore.
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Cath_Green#21293
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She's stuck in a Hmmm loop. Just trying out my new decks and this is the second time in a row she gets stuck. Waiting already a couple of minutes but nothing.
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5StarJT96#44960
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Now you don't even get the "hmmmmm"...just a complete lock down of sitting there and doing nothing where the only "solution" is to concede.
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LunaEverdeen#94691
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1. Give us the steps to reproduce the bug
This happens whenever I play a bot match, no matter what deck I or the bot plays.2. Note which platform you’re using (PC, Steam, Mac, Android, or iOS)
This happens on both Android phone and pc laptop.3. Enter the actual results you’re experiencing
At a random point in the match, the bot will get 'stuck' during their turn and do nothing. The bot constantly says "hmm" over and over, but otherwise nothing happens. I can click on things so it's not frozen, but the only way to stop it is to concede the match.4. Enter the expected results of the feature
I'd like to be able to play the bot matches properly, without this happening.5. Add any relevant screenshots/videos
No screenshots taken.6. If you found a workaround, please add workaround steps.
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WWIIZZ#45817
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Is there a way that you can have a bot match actually be capable of completing without freezing during Sparkys turn?
Or is Magic Arena permanently Hasbroken? -
Allirog#15154
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It's not broke. It is done on purpose. No need to fix. It has to be undone.
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Irrwisch#92644
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Too Many cards seem to freeze Sparky. I am playing a G/R deck with a lot of wolf tokens. It seems like after too many creatures are on the playfield, Sparky thinks indefinitely(hmm, hmmm, hmmmmmmmm xD).
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Strahdt#69486
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Please fix this!
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Transor Z#35746
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Still broke
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weswoof#91719
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I thought it was a glitch when she was facing an attack by an army of 200+ squirrels (which is fun to do, but something a human player would never allow). But no, looks like that isn't the case. caught her hmmming when it was just 4 vs 6 creatures and she had 2 cards in hand with plenty of mana.
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Transor Z#35746
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Still broken. Still stuck on thinking, even after restarting.
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CaptainTeamwork#46313
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I use sparky to test my ideas. I DO NOT play a deck without first thoroughly testing it on Sparky first. If I can't play against sparky then I don't play against people which is bad for the game.
PLEASE FIX SPARKY.
PLEASE. -
gothikcub#25307
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yeah, this is still an issue. clearly. been having this happen daily for me.
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Osiris#90155
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This is a 4 year problem!! Why isn't this being addressed? This is out of control and the game is unplayable. Is it time for reimbursements? Does this need to go to the next level?
I will be contacting the appropriate office.