Remove Digital-Only Cards from the Timeless Format
The timeless format is a big step forward and many players, including myself are excited to start playing it.
However, the constant pushing of digital only designs and pursuit of empty slogans such as "all cards on arena are legal" add nothing to the excitement and health of the format, many players would rather a true to paper experience with as little digital designs as possible.
Please consider removing alchemy from Timeless.
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Blue#97749 commented
I actually quit MTG Arena altogether because they released Alchemy cards into Historic (a long time ago now, I know).
I would love there to be a format on Arena where you could play all REAL cards that exist in paper on Arena, but for some reason the Arena dev team are so dumb, they've never had that idea once Alchemy released.
As an engineer and long time fan of this game, I honestly think the product and management team running Arena should be completely sacked. Not sure they've even clued in (which is even more sad) at how much players hate Alchemy cards. They probably see Youtubers engaging in Alchemy and think they're succeeding when the average players are leaving the client and they're not piecing one and one together about why. I don't care if there is a population that enjoy Alchemy cards, the fact that they're pushing out other players is a cardinal sin in game design.
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TheWamp#17907 commented
Agreed. I like timeless and play it almost as much as standard. That said, I have no desire to see or use any digital only cards. I don't even want to see the free ones I was given in some alchemy packs. I have not used any of them and won't. please give us a format that is alchemy free. Timeless should be the closest format to the old 1.5. Kitchen table Magic online.
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Dransel#82589 commented
As a returning player who recently found out about Timeless, the inclusion of Alchemy cards in this format is going to push me further away from Arena. I have spent more money on MTG than I care to admit, but I just want to mimic my paper experience on a good digital client. Alchemy has its place, but please consider removing it from Timeless and limiting it to Alchemy/Historic formats only.
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peace01#43097 commented
tis is arena whch means you domn't aave older cards unless they are released in digital or a new set. If you want a paper experince you should play MTGO where all the cads since 4th ed are n game and n most of the nonbbn banned are added. There is no need timess in MTGO have Freeform, legacy, and commander and the other format.
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SCbred86#11850 commented
This is critical. Real MTG players do not enjoy alchemy.
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sendel#61419 commented
I think this is an important issue. Alchemy cards are feelbad cards.
Alchemy and historic are a great match, because you seek to balance the format on the product site.
Historic wants to be curated.Timeless is the eternal no-ban, only restricted true to paper format, if changed. Which will help Arena immensly, if you want to bring strong unbalanced/cards into Arena Timeless is an haven always there.
Powerlevel are over the top for a reason. Timeless could even be a better vintage in Paper! Cost wise etc.
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arthur#60167 commented
New player , I love Alchemy , balance
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Nightmare215#84208 commented
please remove alchemy cards from the format, leave alchemy cards to historic.
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jdurchen#07573 commented
100% Agree. Alchemy has ruined my non standard game play. It has basically rendered all my older cards useless because we are not given options of playing larger formats without Alchemy changes and it really does make me consider if I really want to keep investing in a platform that is diverging from the paper experience.
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Grader#03184 commented
I was actually very excited for the Timeless format. I quit playing Arena when Alchemy reared its head into both formats I played (Historic and Historic Brawl). I thought this might get me back onto the client, but I my disappointment was immeasurable when I found out that Timeless is yet another Alchemy Format.
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Exdeath#94833 commented
I feel happy when read about Timeless. My initial happiness has removed when I read that includes Alchemy cards.
Please, remove Alchemy cards from Timeless. Alchemy players have Historic.
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TheGhostofDackFayden#59569 commented
Please. Alchemy players have Historic. Please stop shoehorning Alchemy into everything. You can give us an Alchemy-free format that won't break promises to people who have already bought into Alchemy, since this is a new format without any financial obligations. You know there are a ton of people out there who stay away from Historic, just because we hate digital-only cards so much.
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LetMeShowYouMyBoat#62288 commented
Best way to get me back playing arena is having timeless without alchemy cards. Make 2 timeless one with one without, Timeless and Timeless prime
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Citizen_Soldier#35127 commented
This would be an excellent way for the format to truly distance itself from Historic. It would also appease folks that do not appreciate mechanics that violate rules of paper magic like Perpetual, Conjure, and Seek
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AtomicEngineer#80446 commented
Seconded.
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YaKing#38695 commented
lol. There is no reason for this petition. The alchemy cards are hardly relevant anyway.
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Mikehoncho#80591 commented
Alchemy cards aren't magic cards. They're the fever dreams of people with bad ideas.
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greymon90210#35681 commented
I too support removing Alchemy from this format
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ShazbotTheBrave#01143 commented
Please for the love of god let us have something without alchemy. Literally what is the point of this if it's just historic again but you unbanned spreading seas
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clarciel#89435 commented
really want to see a "paper" timeless. no digital card but add UB