shuffler
Fix your Shuffler Arena. I am so sick and tired of the insane game swings of one game getting completely mana screwed and the very next game getting completely flooded. It never fails. If lose for bad plays on my own part, fine. But I am so **** tired of losing because of severe mana ***** or flood. FIX. YOUR. SHUFFLER.
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Kannmanda#44442
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They won't fix it - nor can they.
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BADJJ#46467
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The shuffler is completely broken. 6 Games, 3 starting hands with no lands, 2 with 5 lands one with 1 land.
This is absolutely unplayable and this issue has been in arena for years. I stopped playing because of this before and I will again.
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Serkian#23585
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Normally it is more important to make money from skins and ****, and favor people who pay, with an ultra aggressive battle pass that returns only 1200 gems out of 3400 with what it costs new/bad/f2p people to get it, while other battle passes from other games absolutely refund the cost of the pass, but hey, it is more important to get $$ than to make the game more accessible for people who want to improve and learn, or simply spend money on improving their ****** algorithm that He already had problems on MTGO. You have to save 5 days to be able to enter a standard event of 2500 coins to eat a 2-3 3-3 3-4 and be told it is a good trade for 200/300 gems and a ****** envelope to reach those 3400 ripping games with 2/3 in hand when the other plays free for paying skins. Let's see if the card bubble bursts, they're going to take each other on the *** like it happened once before, I'd laugh a lot.
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hhrrdon#08137
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i understand that a lot has to do on how many lands you have in the deck, but even considering it is ridicolus how you get no lands, then mull and then you get 6 lands, it´s just infuriating specially when you are playing a draft or limited , we are paying money just for the system to give us loss after loss, i will be dropping the game soon if this continues, also y will be placing it all over social media so others know how wizards cheat you into investing more money
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ChardeeMacDenis#27551
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I don’t know what needs to change on y’all’s end, but losing games due to land multiple times in a payed tournament is crazy. In tabletop you can always 6way or 8way shuffle, almost always separating the deck properly. You guys just stack the deck, and land *****. I have also noticed that when playing regular non payed or ranked matches the deck is usually good. It’s only when it’s ranked or payed does the deck not shuffle properly.
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failnation#65496
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It's not "bad luck", the "R"NG is rigged, when CS is politely pressed for an HONEST, non-scripted answer to this WELL-KNOWN problem, they fold and ignore that player (but that player will notice that matches afterward become increasingly more ludicrous). This is why most MTG players at my LGS refuse to play Arena; it's blatant, and players are treated like we're stupid. Wizards / Hasbro believes they can gaslight us about this problem, and it's why people like me will never put our money into purchasing any digital content.
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failnation#65496
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Oh look, another soul warden deck...
Oh look, another soul warden deck...
Oh look, another soul warden deck...
Oh look, another soul warden deck...
Oh look, another soul warden deck...
Ohhhh a ruin crab deck...
Oh look, another soul warden deck...
Oh look, another soul warden deck...
Oh look, another soul warden deck...
Oh look, another soul warden deck...
Oh look, another soul warden deck...
Ohhhh a ruin crab deck...
Oh look, another soul warden deck...
Oh look, another soul warden deck...
Oh look, another soul warden deck...
Oh look, another soul warden deck...
Oh look, another soul warden deck...
Ohhhh a ruin crab deck...
All the while dealing with 1 or (if I'm lucky) 2 lands in opening hand and hoping to get another before turn 5. Yes, Wizards CS, it really is sooooooo "random"! -
ibehv#89792
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I like mtga but I feel that the program is rigging matches. Im tired of drawing 2 lands every game. My hands are either mana flooded or mana screwed. I don't even try using a mulligan anymore because I either get screwed harder or flooded. For some reason I get flooded or screwed hard against mono red. I noticed that most of my lost games have been because of this. I understand that no hand is perfect but I NEVER had an issue this consistent in paper magic. Please stop rigging our ranked matches. Or please fix your shuffler. Mtga is starting to feel unplayable because of this.
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Abraxxas80#19836
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I feel ya bro, happen to me as well 99% of the time, specially if u play ranked, and when u dont get mana screwed u get mana flooded..... Simply disgusting because it´s obviously on purpose i tested it by playing 1000 games in every mode and the difference between "play" and "ranked" its HUGE. Against the bot seems to be the most real outcome....so sad Wizards so sad......i used to spend money in this game mostly to suppport it because i think MTG is a masterpiece but now the only thing that i can give to them its my middle finger.
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Richard#46971
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Fix the ****, I love magic, have been playing since its onset in 93. I have a great collection. I use this in my spare time but it's beginning to be no fun. Also prowess counters do not carry over from turn to turn I got ****** on that yesterday too. Wizards fix your ****, you ought to be ashamed.
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Richard#46971
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There needs to be more randomize going of shuffle at the beginning of the games. For instance when I'm playing against a mono white player they seem to always get 2 mana and 3 soul wardens off rip every game I know this because I use duress. I play historic ranked. There is no way you should be getting 3 of the same card plus 2 other good cards every game from the start its ******** and wizards you need to fix this. No one will pay money for **** if the shuffle on the start of the game is fixed ....
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mizzandan#24766
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Your shuffler sucks ***. Today I have played 3 matches in historic brawl, the first one went great as land drops were good. The second one I had to mulligan and went into a 3 land hand and did not draw another land until 7 turns later. Next I played a landfall deck in which I run 60 lands and started with a 4 land hand and did not draw another land until 8 turns later. This is frustrating at times and makes the game no fun at all.
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Sagat#53343
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fix the shuffler
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Kil Tr4p#43609
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I have a deck with 18 lands. It constantly draws 4 by turn 4 or half my draws will be lands. Imagine having 7 lands by turn 7 with an average mana cost of 1.3.
Needless to say in a game that is both competetive and gambling by nature rigging the game in a manor that favors one player over another is illegal and this algorithm diacriminates against certain play styles whether or not that was the intention is irrelevent to the consumer. -
Haystack#90070
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I just played six games in a row where I hit Portal to Phyrexia four cards in a row. In four of those games I got four consecutive big score. #thisisshuffling
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nicolbola2003#82738
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I get stuck like this for weeks when I play ranked but the same deck works like a champ in unranked
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Karnaud#91972
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On draft whiel playing 2 colors: hand 1; 3manas of color 1. Hand 2; 3 manas of color 2. Hand 3 stuck at 2 manas.
Repeat that on 3 games in a row. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE!!!!!!! -
Valxide#33211
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Yet another new set I have difficulty getting into what I start out with paying for a draft only to go 0-3 because 2 games I couldn't draw my 3rd land in 3-4 turns or in the 1 game where I only drew lands. Hard to compete with the shuffler working against you and your opponents perfect curves. Yes I was playing 17/40
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Agent1103#98483
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Here is something the smoothing defenders rarely consider:
They will say that it's just the difference between IRL shuffling RNG and in-game shuffling RNG. They will say that it only affects your starting hand, but not your draws.
The former is true, but the latter is not. In fact, the latter is mathematically impossible. Magic drawing is drawing without replacement. This means that every card you take out of the deck, like ones for the starting hand, are not replaced within the deck. Thusly, the probabilities change for the cards within the deck.
To me, this is what makes Arena akin to gambling in a casino. They will say that the purpose is to help with player satisfaction, but in all likelihood these slight changes provide a slight advantage to "the house," or Hasbro/Wizards by creating scenarios that would otherwise not happen as often, like mana screwing/flooding.
Also, you don't actually play with individuals within your draft pool. While this is done to some extent to ensure there is continuous play, it means that you are paired up with combinations of cards from card pools that otherwise wouldn't exist.
To me, this is strong evidence that Arena is rigged in the favor of Wizards, and with the money spent on playing, it makes it very much like gambling. I believe the should make the game's coding open source so people can see how much rigging actually goes on.
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Massacheif1999#42279
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Im at my wits end I enjoyed this game but I literally can't play I've done everything to my deck but the mana just clumps up into pockets and after about 3 or 4 games its like the problem starts over again even if I've changed my mana ive read countless comments saying this is broken and people literally just want the decks to shuffle right but nothing has changed I want this game to at least be playable. Then we get into the out right broken cards the list is too long but a card that replicates itself over and over to no end isn't broken at all but if nothing changes like usual I dont think I can play anymore