Algorithm Improvement
I'm sure you're getting a lot of complaints about how one-sided your algorithm is not being impartial and often times screwing over players with land draws that should not be happening in a purely random sample - so my complaint can be added to that pile.
But, an idea for changing the algorithm to improve randomization would be having the program assign a number to each card remaining in a deck and pile shuffling the cards into X amount of piles (let's say 6). It can repeat this process Y amount of times then take the middle of the pile and put those cards on top. A better template would be from the card shuffler for poker sets from stores.
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DCarnage#32456 commented
It's not an idea, it's a problem with the "flip a coin, who goes first". I have been tracking my deck tonight and I have played 40 games with a tracker. With a 26% on the play percentage. I learned that my tracker only calculates the games I start. I had given up before starting a game before accepting my hand which counts as going first so my "on the play" is actually lower than 26%.
Seriously, stop favoring net decks and adhere to the coin flip. Technically the rate at which I get to go first is literally impossible. I have a better chance at winning the powerball lottery three times over than getting the odds of going first in MTGA. I uploaded my games played/lost and the percentage at which I went first. Yes, I lost a lot of games but to be fair, after the first 20 games of going second other than a few games, I conceded. From here on out, in regular play (not ranked) I will give up every other game that I don't go first. One game, I go second, the next I go first. If I go second two times in a row, I concede. I will continue to concede for 4-6 more games until I go first. If I go first two times in a row, I will go second two times in a row. All we want is a true 50/50 system in which we play/draw.
At this point, I serious think that you have my account tagged to go second most of the time for complaints in the forums about bugs (specifically audio bugs that your programmers can't fix) to be fair, the audio has been better lately. But still chill out with your ****** "play first" algorithm.
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FreshTowels#15586 commented
I've played 5 draft of Dominaria and I've never hit 3 wins. I lose at least 2 games a draft because the game refuses to give me land curve. If its multi-land, I always only get 1 type. I tried to mono land in desperation and then it never gives more than 1. Mulligans don't help. Maybe I'm just unlucky as my opponents never seem to have a problem, but I can't take it anymore. I've never had a set kick me in the nuts so routinely on RNG. I've played Magic for a long time, but I can't do this any more. I can't suffer through 7-10 days of standard just to get another 0-3 run where I get nothing at all.
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Sloth#78688 commented
This game blows. One of the worst excuses for a fair card game ever. as a 20+ year player of MTG I can 100% say this game is broken if not completely rigged. The economy sucks, the community sucks, the matchmaker and shuffler suck. And that's literally every aspect of the game other than the beautiful UI. Hasbro/Wizards has finally found a way to ruin the game of magic. I think its safe to say this is nothing more than a cash grab full of rigging and fake loss streaks to encourage in game purchases.
MTG has always been somewhat pay to win because you can buy cards, but this is on a whole new level of BS. you pay to own nothing. You cant trade. Losses feel so forced that you almost feel bad winning half the time. about 1 out of every 10-20 games feels legit and like a good fun game of magic. the rest of the time someone is just getting mana screwed. Games bad, companies bad, these guys are in the same realm as Blizzard and their products should flat out be avoided.
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belway#93334 commented
I am SEEING SAME issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am raging quitting now! Spent ALOT TIME and MONEY to rank for nothing.... 2 games in a row, I draw NOTHING BUT LANDS!
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OD commented
Then they can't favor the game for the people who spent money. They have to win so they can enjoy and spend more. Digital rigging at its finest. So don't expect any fairness.
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TheWizardKnows#52175 commented
I have drafted many a lot through Arena and it seems just recently have been seeing a rash of opening hands with 3+ of the same basic land. Then kept drawing lands of the same color... I understand this could be random luck but I have pretty much ended up poorly in 2x drafts because of this. Has the hand smoothing algorithm been updated?
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Lady Lilith#11462 commented
I've noticed this, too. I agree that we need to take a stand and not buy into Arena anymore until they let us choose our decks in Ranked queues AFTER being matched. Simple fix which will no longer defeat the purpose of wanting to play a more organic-feeling game of MtG. I am specifying "ranked" queues because that's where deck-based matchmaking really has no valid place whatsoever.
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max#66712 commented
Your shuffler is everyday worst ..can’t u see it ?
It’s not even random or I will ,at some point ,could play all my 60 cards ..but there are cards on my deck I don’t play like from weeks because they never happen and I play at least 10 games on the best of 3 everyday .
Another prove is that if I add a card I’m ur deck u probably will play at the first games .
I can’t play any,ore so frustrating to finish games or with 2 lands or 10 lands over 13 cards ..
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Adeseus#19846 commented
Here we go again, better than 40 percent chance to draw a land and here I am turn 8 and the same two lands I started with.
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Faohlin#19422 commented
I finally uninstalled your game for the final time. I've had it with the amoung of rigging that goes on with this game. You cannot convince me that this game is not rigged to make the user want to spend money.
I was playing Boros Burn - a rather good deck in the current meta - and went on a massive winning streak in the ladder, getting to Gold 3 without any issues at all. Today, all of a sudden, I start getting the most awful starting hands I've had with the deck. To the point where I was getting 2 Plains and 3 Raijus in hand. I had to mulligan my starting hand in 6 out of 7 games! I'm sorry, that's just not normal. It doesn't make any sense that a deck that never had these issues before all of a sudden starts having the worst possible draws and starting hands.
Also, I find it curious that, in my matches before today, I was playing versus a good diversity of decks. Today, I was paired with at least 5 mono black players. Hum... How curious that I'm matched versus the deck that counters mine the most so many times. But I'm sure it's just a coincidence, right?Anyways, others before me have complained about your rigged shuffler. I certainly won't be the last. Wizards, it's time for you to listen to your players and get rid of this broken shuffler. Until you do, I am not touching your game again. And, in all honesty, I'm sorry for those who will keep experiencing this shuffler and the frustrations that come from it.
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Adeseus#19846 commented
I have a 40 percent chance to draw any land. I have 8 spells in my deck one drops that allow me to draw lands. I am crushing my opponent despite only having two lands for 6 rounds and 3 lands for 9 rounds, I lose in 11 rounds having the two lands I started with and the one land I drew. That sirs is a joke. I understand one game where I have a 50 percent chance in my deck to draw something to take me to a land. Not one time but now 12 time in the last week. I went from 40 percent chance to now 50 percent. Tell me the game isn't rigging the games to be close. That person was waxed and yet the game decided you know what he'll use one card return everything to my hand and because I don't draw another land for the rest of the match he comes back to win.
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Powerduck26#82659 commented
Are you ******* fix this ******* algorithm ??? Seriously, this is a scam what you do !!! With 60 cards decks or with 250 cards, i always have lands problems and lands are almost 1/2 cards !!! Everytime ******* time, i have to mullingan because i have only 1 or 2 lands in my hands (and not only one colour when i have a multicolor deck !!!). Or i only have lands !!! And i don't talk about cards people draw !!! It's not real probability we can have !!! Go fix your ******* algorithm, *******, because, this is really a scam ! We put money in it !!! ******** sons of bitchs !!!
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TheShowCase50#54444 commented
PLEASE FIX YOUR SHUFFLER. I get mana screwed all the time and either I don't get lands when theres a 30 percent chance over 5 turns or I don't get the colors needed.
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quentin#51669 commented
os enviare fotos de las partidas porque entiendo que esto lo mueve el dinero pero que en mazo de 60 cartas siempre salgan las mismas 10 y luego o bien no salen tierras o solo salen tierras....reconocerlo pero no nos toméis por tontos
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Capnclyde#28254 commented
fire your staff and hire people with real skill to fix your shuffler which is really just a card stacking device with no randomization to it. i will never spend money on this game
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SRH420#86363 commented
TLDR: Unless they add a game mode that’s completely random matchmaking I am done with this garbage game and going to paper only.
Came here to add to the list of frustrated players, I’m about to uninstall Arena. My main complaints are…. You guessed it… The matchmaking and shuffling.
I can deal with the poor shuffling, although it sucks loosing games from drawing 10 creatures or lands on a row with no mix of the two. I’m totally done with the matchmaking though. I either get paired with people that have top tier meta decks packed with rares and mythics who trigger 30 abilities every turn, or the EXACT counter to my deck that perfectly undermines every card I throw out every turn.
God forbid that somehow, against all odds I actually manage to pull off a few wins in a row… the game decides to shut you down and get 30 losses in a row.
I’ve been playing all morning at work due to it being very slow. I put together a new all black deck that had me getting some decent wins at about a 60-70% ratio. Once I got to 10 wins, EVERY game is now a loss. I’ll be close to a win, but then the op pulls that one card that lets them draw three cards, destroy 2+ creatures and gain life and counters all in the same turn ending the game.
Side note of how I build my decks:
I am new to arena only playing for a few weeks now. I found my old box of cards from middle school while moving and it got me into MTG again. I’m mostly free to play, only spending money on the season pass once and a couple of packs here and there so my cards are limited.
I pick a color/play style that I am going for and use whatever random cards I have that kind of work together to make up most of the deck. Then I’ll use 1-3 wild cards (if I have any) to fill in where the deck is lacking. I hardly play any of the “popular” or “meta” cards. All my decks are pretty unique in comparison to everyone else, yet usually come up with something that is actually pretty strong and unexpected since it’s not “meta” like all the try hards play.
But every time… I start getting wins and the game says..NOPE, no more wins for you today… and the losing streak begins.
…End of rant, if you made it to the end I salute you!
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kwall86#86208 commented
The draw algorithm has been proven to cheat. How the game draws cards as per your website is against the rules of magic. There is no reason why i should consistantly draw 3 copies of one card. Put 24 lands in a deck and you get 2 lands total all game. Put 20 lands in a deck and you get all lands. Make it at least make sense. You have been given evidence upon evidence of all of this and you still refuse to fix the main issue with the game. Every paper magic player i have encountered complains about your cheating shenanigans. I have even drawn 5 copies of cards in one game. Sometmes it has been 5 turns in a row drawing the same card. Just fix it and stop the ****.
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MysticSquid#48745 commented
quick Question . how is it possible to properly tune a deck when your shuffler keeps either massive amounts of mana or almost none every game. Like seriously how can you tune a deck without being able to figure out if you have too much land or not enough. last 10 games have been either 12+ land runs or by turn 10 struggling with only 3 or 4 lands. I really dont know how it is possible. Are you guys suggesting we abandon trying to build our own decks and just use net decks, or only ply mono aggro decks? Or are you just trying to alienate the crafting part of the community?
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player2aj#16271 commented
As the title says.
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quentin#51669 commented
aunque tengo un mazo de 60 cartas siempre juego con 4 o 5 cartas que tocan tras barajar, en otros combates decaparecen las tierras, y en otro combates solo me salen encantamientos, buen algoritmo, entiendo que se premie de alguna manera al que compra asiduamente pero es vergonzoso