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Shuffler algoritm

Please do away with shuffler algorithms; just randomize it. I feel I need to build a deck to suit the algorithms which I don't want to.' The algo is completely obvious and often ridiculous. I think it would be great for MTG to just randomize it, because the shuffler seems to work best with copy paste unoriginal decks. So fix it. Now. Random is cheaper to for you guys. Fire some people, whatever.

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  • Ken Tashdiss#31663 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    To have a real "online only" experience, we need to try a REAL shuffle. Meaning each card's position in the deck is 100% randomized without any tweaking of any sort on shuffle. Let the rules of probabilities apply !

    Then only we can see on the long run what kind of consequence this can have on deckbuilding, having a slightly different meta from offline (although archetypes will stay).

    Randomness is the ultimate fairness.

  • Artemysko#30820 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    This post for bastards that talking that shuffler is Ok.
    13 card in play:
    - 3 Into the Story (3 in the deck totally)
    - 3 Thieves' Guild Enforcer
    - 2 Bloodchief's Thirst (2 in the deck totally)
    And Into the Story I'm getting literaly alwas in my start hand
    How it is possible to make so stupid suffler logic!

  • Andrzej#50486 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    You give me inprobable mana floods when I am about to earn some gems in traditional draft (today). People o reddit report the same issue. I had the same issue yesterday in bo1. The second I am near the fifth win You mess with the shuffler. Mana *****/mana floods are unbelievably often just in those games when I am to pass above 1500 gems in reward !!!!!!!!!!!

    IT IS NOT FAIR. IT IS NOT MAGIC. YOU DESTROY BEAUTIFUL GAME FOR THE SAKE OF MONEY. Wasn't the Krasis -> Oko - > Uro idiotism invented to hide that ugly truth??? Aren't You reserving fair randomization for approved streamers to create the illusion of fair game????

    Also it is my nameday. I demand reimbursement for those two drafts IN GEMS, not in gold. Furthermore. Do it again and I am going to raise ****. From this day I am recording all my games. I am contacting the guy, who exposed the shuffler, maybe he needs new ideas for research.

    Shame on You.

  • Phillium456#18386 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Hey there, I have played five games and not one of them has your game given me more than 3 lands. Fix your algorithm. Under no circumstances is 20 lands not enough for a red aggro deck. I shouldn't get 10-12 turns into a game with only 3 lands. I switch to a deck with 24 lands and still only get 3. STOPPPPPPPPPP trying to be Smart about draws and just let the randomizer to its thing. If you need to create a separate environment for new players, then just do it. Stop trying to "SMOOTH" the draws. Your system doesn't know what players will pick and it limits people selections. Let them play. And give me my lands!!!!

  • DRUGTAKER#95420 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    This is getting far far far out of control and it needs fixed. There is NO way youi will convince me whatsoever that drawing land after land afer land after land after land after land after land after land after land after land after land after ******* land multiple games in a row is normal. NOT to mention my mulligans were, oh yeah you guessed it ******* ALL LANDS. This is so broken its not even playable for me anymore. **** this game. ******** wizards of the coast.

  • Feedmyeyes#61792 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Shuffler and matchmaker are garbage....out of 9 matches I have played Yorion 4 times, just as bad as rogues now....If I look at the standard meta, Yorion isn't 50% of decks played, nor are Rogues, so how are you matching 50% of matches against the same meta? Broken algorithms, that's how...

    Shuffler was garbage as usual, too many instances of all 4 copies of card in opening hand or consecutive draws.

  • Ravnicario#20685 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    This rigged game needs that we spend our money to play and we love Magic ( but we hate MGTA) so just play with a free acount until WoTC "fix" the problem. Another option is to just play Paper Magic.

    Most importantly: DO NOT SPEND YOUR MONEY WHEN YOU FEEL FRUSTED BY THE SHUFFLER, IT IS A TRICK OF THE GAME FOR YOU TO SPEND!

  • khanaman#34072 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Been playing alot of this game, got to mythic and im getting tired of the rigged gameplay. Could you just please randomise everything, the game is unplayable for me now.

  • Generic#85248 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Losing 10 games out of 12 because of **** shuffler mana drought/glut issues is tedious. Had one good game, one game where my opponent was hosed by the shuffler, and then everything else was opponent getting perfect draw, me getting sh!t. Seriously, if you can't lift a bit of standard randomizer code from decades of programming literature, how pathetic are you?

  • Thalen#99187 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Stop playing and leave the game to the whales and fanbois, do they have enough whales to function? no they don't, so the more people play the more they will just have some idiot manager telling the CEO's all is good.

  • Feedmyeyes#61792 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    have only got through 3 matches this AM before having to leave....Mana is all or nothing. Mulligans are not helping and generally have to mulligan down to 4-5 cards then I have to keep. Match 1 played gruul aggro and couldn't get more than 3 mana for the first 5 turns...switched decks and it was the opposite, nothing but flood for 3-4 games...then finally got screwed with 2 mana by turn 4....seriously, it was all or nothing, no middle ground in 6 games, flood or *****.

    I'm not even sure why we even post here, knowing nothing will be done and WoTC doesn't read anything in this thread is just as frustrating....this is like the angry room where we all just yell and feel like breaking **** then have to leave and nothing is accomplished....we just go back to the game and continue to get angry, come back here, yell, then back to the game that is causing us so much frustration

  • Lord Aion#71082 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Game is **** predictable... if you know your opponents deck you can predict what play they will have and you will have the worst hand algorithm in game... it sucks tbh because Magic suppose to be a game of skill but nowadays it literally wants your money. Worst Matchmaking as well especially in BO1... Worst rewards for Digital Game platform.

    WORST Developer ever!! I tried MTGO and they are way better than MTG Arena

  • Dameon Geppetto#78715 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    So as if Ugin wasn't OP enough, but I kill one Ugin by skillfully tricking the opponent into blocking the wrong card before throwing down my Embercleave ONLY to have him then throw down a second Ugin next hand. I kill the second Ugin two turns later, mind you this is a miracle since I usually instant quit upon seeing the game wrecking card known as Ugin, only to have him drop 3 Elder Gargaroth (sp?) 6/6 creatures in a row. MTG: Arena is so rigged it is out of control.

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  • ELROD2000#21064 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Im consistently getting 1 or 2 mana at the beginning of my matches, and then it is forever before I get more land!!!
    Ive added more land to my deck thinking this will answer the problem, but it never helps!!!
    I dont understand what has happened recently, but the card draw sucks ...so bad!!!

  • evilbadguy#46490 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    every mtga game ill have a 4 of a kind. well 9 out of 10 games i will. nah 4 of a kind are very super common.. who the f you kidding

  • Anoubi#15625 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Are you aware that in MtGA, your draw alghorythm is so **** bugged? It supposed to be randomic, but it isn’t: often, while few games, the draw step return always the same cards, even after one or two Mulligan. That’s really unfair and frustrating after a while. I really can’t believe that in 2020 you’re unable to set this problem off... So you would bring MtGA inside the eSports universe.. hmm.. interesting...

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