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Shuffler algoritm

Please do away with shuffler algorithms; just randomize it. I feel I need to build a deck to suit the algorithms which I don't want to.' The algo is completely obvious and often ridiculous. I think it would be great for MTG to just randomize it, because the shuffler seems to work best with copy paste unoriginal decks. So fix it. Now. Random is cheaper to for you guys. Fire some people, whatever.

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  • Capnclyde#28254 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    fire your staff and buy a new one to fix this trash game the bullsh!t on this client is endless and it start with the minute you shuffler

  • evosonic#22462 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Wouldn't wizards be in a dilemma if the shuffler is truly rigged? I mean admitting unsportsmanlike behavior in regards off a rigged shuffler... Hmm. They would be stupid to admit it, let alone change it. Because if they do admit it everyone would stop p(l)aying until its fixed. By changing it, they would miss out a luxurious cashgrab.

    Sooo im being bold by saying to everyone who's reading this: This will never change. Deal with it and handle the game as f2p and don't buy a mastery pass, if you feel like its rigged.

    PS: WotC, alone the suspicion that something in a card game is rigged can be devastating for a game like yours.

  • Eduardo#50562 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I stopped spending money in Arena. I recommend everyone unsatisfied do the same. The company does not worry about complaints until it hurts its pocket.

  • Billzabub#55457 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    WotC as I see it you have two choices:

    1. Continue with your money grab and then lose all credibility with players and have your cash cow dry up and stop delivering milk money

    2. Fire the coders named Manip Ulated and return Arena to truly random matches and card draw and hopefully save Magic the Gathering from ever being associated with a Rigged Version called Arena

    Choice is yours.

  • Danton#75751 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Today I faced 11 land draws in a row on my first draws. (60 cards deck, 25 lands. inital hand 3 lands and 4 others. Chance of 11 land draws = 0.000925%).

    The feeling is the wish to never open MTG Arena again. Angry and pain.

    So I thought... What about a feature, similar to many poker sites, that rewards players that face some bad beats?

    Maybe gems rewards, gold rewards, cards rewards... The intention is to ease the hatred of unlucky players, bringing fun even to these very rare moments. Of course, related not about the quantity of lands you draw, but about the chance - considering the ratio between lands and total cards.

    It's a fact: variance is frustrating and doesn't have to be. Ask the players in a pool about this idea. People would approve for sure!

    How many players quit the game forever due to factors like this?

    Don't you think it is a clever idea?

  • ひろたそ#41103 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    クイックドラフトで引いたカードがぜんぶ土地でした。クリーチャー3体は初期手札です。
    そんなことある？

  • ひろたそ#41103 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    クイックドラフトで引いたカードがぜんぶ土地でした。クリーチャー3体は初期手札です。
    そんなことある？

  • InebriatedFish#84016 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Every time I buy a pack I get perfect hands. Every game I quit early or rope out I get mana flooded/starved for a game or two. Painfully obvious, really turning me off from having anything to do with this game or the company

  • KDJOHNSON#71660 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I am getting sick and tired of being dealt bad games. It is not my decks. There is something wrong with how the games get dealt. This game is not fun at all if I am constantly losing. Issues I am getting is I am not being dealt creatures, no lands, land of only one type or no supporting cards. They way the games are dealt are extremely improbable. It is impossible to be dealt games this badly so consistently. Fix the ****

  • KDJOHNSON#71660 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    When will the card shuffle get fixed. I should very rarely see 3 of the same card in my hand on a draw. It should be rare to see doubles.

  • Naganian#59251 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    初手の土地の枚数比が尋常じゃないほど偏り露骨にマリガンの回数が増えているのですが、こういった嫌がらせは金輪際やめてください。そろそろ訴訟ないしは消費者庁に報告しようと思います。

  • JauQi#45362 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I just played a game with 18 lands in a 60 card deck in which I had one land in my opening hand. I drew NINETEEN cards that game, and did not draw a single land after the first.
    My back-of-the-envelope math suggests the odds of this happening are much less than 1/10,000. I'm not saying it's impossible, but that this behavior is so highly improbable that I would question whichever algorithm is stacking the deck (figuratively and literally).

  • Haystack#90070 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    From the past 30 days I have over 100 screenshots of triplets in my opening draw or instances of 7+ Mana in a row. Anyone who finds this acceptable has either never played magic, is a shill, or both. It's pathetic. But what's more pathetic than a company ignoring/taking advantage of their player base is my inability to delete the app. Y'all are scumbags and I will never spend another dime on wizards products until it is at least acknowledged.

  • Surtseyan#16129 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I'd much rather have completely random hands than deal with the obvious bias. The number of times I or my opponent have had three of the same powerful card available in quick succession in matches is pretty nuts. And if it's not that, it's oddball land draws. We should get the same experience as the physical card players.

  • FK1#25590 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I wanna thank you for teaching me that the universallt accepted 17 lands is the wrong amount for a limited deck. It’s good to know that with 17 lands I will nearly every game either draw way to few or way too many lands. MAYBE 20% of the time it will draw what probability actually says it should. It’s wonderful to learn that when you put yourself in position to win with LITERALLY ANY DRAW other than land over the next 3 turns, I will lose every time. I wonderful to know, that if I start with 5 of 17 lands, I will ALWAYS draw at least 5 lands in my first 7 turns, causing a loss EVERY SINGLE TIME! It’s wonderful to know that if I start with 2 lands and only need to draw 1 SINGLE LAND IN 4 TURNS TO BE ABLE TO CAST EVERY CARD IN MY DECK, I will not draw a land for at least 4 turns, giving me no chance to compete. It’s wonderful to see that the software continues to give WAY TOO MANY DUPLICATES of the same commons/uncommons, completely ruining any possibility of reading signals in a draft. Once again I deserve to get compensated for the entry fee of the last 2 drafts due to NUMEROUS BUGS with your software.

  • KAun4#10926 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Why my messages are getting deleted? There is no point, I just always post it again.
    For me Wotc has crossed the line with this abhorrent treatment of players. First I was happy to get my money back from arena but now it is clear that I have bought my last product from Wotc. It is such a shame, this used to be a good company.

    This shows clearly that they do not want people to have discussion about this issue and especially about the fact that due this you are capable to get your money back! I got mine and my ticket phrasing can be found from my previous comment 20th of june.

    I have tried to discuss for example with @Jheffy#15083 @SaintGriever#54145 @Bootsmcgee#05631 and all of these comments have been deleted. Most funny thing is that these posts do not even violate the Code of Conduct and all the deletions have been arbitrary and with no reason. I have tried to get answers to this from Wotc customer support for over a month now. Just dead silence and issue tickets are just marked solved, very shameful indeed.

    If you want change then you have to demand it.
    One way is to boycot this company and one way is to open a class action suit against them.

  • Nymisis#17992 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    You simply can't keep saying there's nothing wrong with the shuffler. For about a week now the vast majority of matches I've been in have been decided by mana *****, be it flood or lack of mana. We are seeing the same thing with your many streamers as well so this isn't isolated behavior and its FAR worse than it has been in the past.

  • Wreavers#97528 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    tell me if it is possible to lose 7/8 consecutive games because this fixed game either does not give you lands or gives you only those that can happen but not with this frequency. Wizard you are ridiculous.

  • GODcaspian#44711 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    The card draws and shuffling is so broken, in too many games to count I sometimes get 10 lands draws in a row I only have 22 lands in my deck… it absolutely ruins games especially when you are in clutch situations and you know your next draw will be a land.

    Have you fixed it like this so people don’t go above a certain win percentage? Or are the draws actually broken?

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